That is simply not true.Originally Posted by TrueBulldog1962
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That is simply not true.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Why would a kid go to JUCO over coming to Tech or any other mid tier D1 out of high school then?
More playing time. Better scholarships. Waiting for a better offer. To name a few.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Exactly. Development under a good juco system beats riding the pine behind a rotation of upper classmen. SEC schools have been using certain jucos and community colleges as a farm system for years.
Back in the day when we were a good program under Gravy we had a pipeline of good juco players coming in that produced at a high level immediately.
You said it is hard to evaluate a JUCO player. It is MUCH harder to evaluate a HS player. There are a ton of HS players who put up big numbers against crappy competition. JUCO competition is good. Hitting .400 in HS is not as good as hitting .400 in JUCO. Going 12-0 at OCS is not as good as going 12-0 at Hinds. It's a safer route to recruit. There are a bunch of JUCOs that are better than Tech. Not a knock on Tech, but there are some really good JUCO teams out there.
Exactly right.
The main one: Division I baseball programs can give 11.7 scholarships, and very few players get a full ride. NJCAA baseball programs can give 24 scholarships, and almost any Division I prospect is going to get a full ride for two years (and be draft-eligible after each year).
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Exactly. A FULL ride and 24 innings as a freshman in the fall alone.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Y'all nailed it
''Don't be a bad dagh..."
Been going through this with my son. Bad timing with Tech, as it's obvious coach Goff wanted to get older in a hurry with JUCOS. I would say pretty much every kid that plays HS ball with aspirations to play at the next level wants to play D1 ball. Not every kid gets a D1 offer. Some go to a smaller division school to continue playing for the love of the game, some go JUCO to keep the dream alive. Some programs are already full and ask you to go JUCO so they can get you the next yr (which is what Wichita St. wanted my son to do). JUCO is no doubt a great option and has turned in to a farm system for the major D1 programs. Thus the talent at the JUCO level. Most kids who get a D1 offer jump on it. I don't think money is that big of a deterrent for a shot at their dream (financial aid is always available). The kid's desired major also plays a factor. My son had interest from a couple of D1 schools that didn't offer engineering degrees. So those were not even a consideration. As it played out, my son just signed as a LHP for UTSA. Tech started calling after he had already verbally committed. He had the option of going JUCO with 100% paid and hopefully getting something "bigger" or taking the bird in hand with a good school fairly close to home that offered his desired major. My "not so to the point" is that there are a ton of factors that go in to where a kid ends up playing. Many kids go JUCO for various reasons. Some weren't quite where they needed to be developmentally, some didn't have the grades, some are rehabbing an injury, some are knowingly entering a farm system for a major D1 program and are very talented. Some kids simply got overlooked. I know a bunch of those.
HS players can be hit or miss as well. JUCO baseball is a different animal than JUCO football... We just signed 5 players from Hinds community college. I talked to another player on that team yesterday that signed with South Alabama, 1 signed with Ole Miss, and 2 with ULM...these guys are all talented and will contribute when they arrive on campus
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"JUCO guys can be very hit or miss"
So you're saying high school kids are a sure thing?
Most here are correct in their assessment of why JUCO players are needed especially when there is a change in staff. This process is simply the norm. That being said, it affects HS kids who are coming out during this period. For example, a school has interest in a player and offers him young because he's a quality player and projects to be a high level D1 player. The staff gets replaced and the kid gets lost in the shuffle because the immediate philosophy has to change to compete now. It's part of the process and gets overlooked by parents and athletes who have never been exposed to it previously. I am learning that first hand but we are dynamic in that we shift gears and change directions at the drop of a dime. No one is below our consideration.
Sounds like the real world eh?
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