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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by dawgs1 View Post
    UT already delivers the Houston market.
    I would agree with you if this was the Big 10, SEC, or ACC, but the Big 12 has no stand-alone network. Their model would work with Houston.

    EDIT: Dawgs1 - I wanted to edit my post. If Houston ends up not being a part of this, it will tell you that the Big 12's TV contract model is going away. The Longhorn Network, which has been a financial disaster for ESPN, will become the Big 12 Network sooner rather than later.
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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Fox Sports SW already has special programming for the Big 12 along with C-USA.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    That would be an easy fix - let them and their travel partner play on Saturday or Monday. Schedule conference tourneys to end on Saturday. They shouldn't be a problem. They currently play their baseball series on Th/Fr/Sat
    What travel partner?...and that's the biggest problem. BYU is totally out of the Big 12 footprint unless it wanted to go for another school like Colorado State...an option that actually makes more sense than some being thrown around.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Colorado State is a legit contender. It sits on par with its Pac12 sister. That would put the Big12 back into the Denver market.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    The problem with expanding way is that WV is all alone in the east. wv may not seem to have options, but the conference has been burned on that before.

    If they do go west, the conference has never shown interest in Colorado State like they have in Air Force.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere:

    The Sporting News is reporting: "Big 12 met with Cincinnati before playoff was finalized"

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...160133203.html

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    For what it's worth Brett McMurphy has said pretty unequivocally that the rumors of expansion lack a basis.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    This whole thing about the Big 12 needing a championship game would not have guaranteed a Big 12 team in the playoff this year. If there had been a championship game this year, it would have been between Baylor and K-State, a team that already had 2 losses. Ohio State still beats out Baylor even if Baylor wins. The Big 12 is not going to bring in teams that aren't going to help their image and Cincinnatti and Memphis won't do that.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    The Big 12 won't expand just for a championship game. A championship game can either hurt you or help you. It just depends on the year. In the BCS era, the championship game hurt the Big 12 several times and never really helped the Big 12. The CFB Playoff era won't be any different. This was a rare, rare year in which the five big conference champs were ranked 1-5, so rare that it NEVER came close to happening in the BCS era.
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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    The Big 12 won't expand just for a championship game. A championship game can either hurt you or help you. It just depends on the year. In the BCS era, the championship game hurt the Big 12 several times and never really helped the Big 12. The CFB Playoff era won't be any different. This was a rare, rare year in which the five big conference champs were ranked 1-5, so rare that it NEVER came close to happening in the BCS era.
    Championship games actually hurting the conference is the reason I expect them to go away at some point. They don't seem to be the drawing cared they were set up to be years ago.

    Also, when they go to an 8 team playoff the extra game will be one of two too many.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    The first thing I would do if I were the Big 12ish is petition for permission to hold a championship game with the existing 10. The worst they can be told is "no."
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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    The first thing I would do if I were the Big 12ish is petition for permission to hold a championship game with the existing 10. The worst they can be told is "no."
    It is my understanding that they have applied for a waiver almost every year and have been told no.

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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg419 View Post
    It is my understanding that they have applied for a waiver almost every year and have been told no.
    Have not heard that before. Here is what Graham Watson said in a column this week:

    The Big 12 has applied for a waiver to have a conference title game without the requisite 12 teams, which would keep the Big 12 out of the expansion fray. But Bowlsby knows that solution might not be good enough and the conference might have to seek two teams to brings its numbers to 12 and create divisions.
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    Re: Memphis and Cincy to leave AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    This whole duscussion is dumb. Neither Memphis are Cincy are anywhere near worthy of this discussion.
    In the Chronicle yesterday, the B12 commissioner said that they recently visited on the Cincinnati campus, but that was before the Baylor/TCU fiasco and he said 'don't read anything to that - yet'. Their big thing is to first try to get a 'special dispensation' allowing for a Champ game with only 10, but if that doesn't work they will look at two more.

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