Originally Posted by Champ967
And one could make a very strong case that obesity is a much larger problem when it comes to healthcare costs than illegal drugs ever could be. And it's getting worse.
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And one could make a very strong case that obesity is a much larger problem when it comes to healthcare costs than illegal drugs ever could be. And it's getting worse.
I agree. I just found his stance to be confusing. You think it's terrible to allow the govt to pick winners and losers with subsidies but it's ok for them to pick winners and losers with drugs.
I am in criminal court almost every week. I've counted it. By far, most of the accused are non-violent drug offenders. A lot of them are Tech students busted for splitting a buy wirh their friends. They are charged with felony distribution We are putting people in prison at the tune of over 1.4% of the population in Louisiana. We are converting people who are not harming others into criminals.
I will take my chances on your hypothetical damage and cost to society by legalizing drugs than the concrete evidence of the evil and expense of the current system.
But, for the sake of argument, your speculation as to what would happen if drugs are legalized has no historical evidence to support your position. We don't have to guess what will happen if drugs are legalized. We went though this with prohibition. No, I didn't live in the 30s, but I can read.
The drug wars have been just as much of a disaster as prohibition was. Prohibition handed a monopoly to the criminals. Prohibition gave us Al Capone. The drug wars give us El Chapo (my rival for the affections of Teresa Mendoza). The cost of delivering drugs is driven up so high by drug enforcement that the little guy cannot afford the risk. In effect, our government protects the drug cartels by eliminating their completion
During prohibition, people could still find a drink. But, because it was illegal, as already mentioned, the price of alcohol was driven up so much that to save money, people began to make stronger and stronger moonshine to the point it became dangerous. The same thing is happening now with stronger and stronger drugs being produced. Crack cocaine owes its existence to drug wars. Pot is more potent.
After prohibition was repealed, crime went down. It is preposterous to claim that crime would go up if we legalize drugs. The gangs during prohibition were left without a job after prohibition. The same will happen with the drug gangs.
I am not,claiming there will be no problems. There will probably be some drug users that might not otherwise have gone down that path. But, it will still be that person's choice. Who doesn't have a choice is the little girl shot in a drive by shooting. The collateral damage caused by the current drug wars is staggering.
I believe in the freedom of choice. That includes the choice make stupid decisions. What the government touches, it screws up. It has screwed up the drug trade. It has been and will continue to be a failure.
What this all boils down to is that you are making a moral judgment and enforcing your moral judgment on others at gunpoint. That takes a lot of men with guns and a lot of prisons. We can't afford to force your view of morality on others anymore. What can't go won't. One day, just as prohibition ended, so will your losing war on drugs.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Watching Trump right now...is it possible that he is more liberal than Hillary? Lists health care and education as 2 of the 3 most important functions of government.
Yeah, he really stumbled through that. Healthcare and education need to be on the chopping block for a lot of conservatives.
During CNN's Republican Town Hall tonight, Trump sounded like the rational, reasonable businessman he probably is. I just don't think he can resist the excitement of the stage.
The Fair Tax is a superior solution to our problems than the flat tax.
Maybe, but it seems even less likely to be passed.
At the end of the day, a LARGE portion of the country pays nothing and they would revolt if their sales taxes tripled over night.
True. When people say they want a flat tax, they really don't. They want a flat tax but want to exclude this and that and everything else.
That's racist.
Never gonna happen. Even most a lot of small govt guys think healthcare and education are untouchable functions of the govt.
Of the Federal Government?
Yea. I've had lots of conversations with friends who are for "small [federal] government" yet think that. Could just be my experience though.
I honestly don't think I've heard anyone that is honest about wanting a smaller government.
I am supporting Cruz, but if Trump is to become the Repub nominee he needs to tone down the rhetoric. It's already too late, really. Bernie has enough ammunition to use in commercials to last til November, just from what Trump has already said. But, American voters do tend to have short memories....and many just stumble thru life clueless....so if Trump would start acting presidential, he still can salvage this thing. Er, provided he's the nominee, which isn't a given yet.
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