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    South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 years


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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    that takes guts (that La legislature will never have)

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    It will never pass, but wow!! If it does that will be a shot across the bow for hundreds of institutions who eat sleep and breath in the RED every year come budget time.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Don't have details....but I will find out and post later....but there is a "movement" if one can call it that, among Faculty Senates in the ULS schools to start a dialogue on fixing budget issues in higher ed. One of the items to be discussed is the future of HBCs in Louisiana. Actually, the way it is being approached, I am told, is "why do we have (need) such schools?" Just an interesting tidbit. Finally someone, albeit self-serving Faculty Senates, are publically addressing this issue.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Closing Grambling won't do us any good. It may add a piece of the pie by to the table but the impact it would have on Lincoln Parish is devastating. Also they need to close the entire Southern University System down. That would solve a lot of problems.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Quote Originally Posted by KSDAWG View Post
    Closing Grambling won't do us any good. It may add a piece of the pie by to the table but the impact it would have on Lincoln Parish is devastating. Also they need to close the entire Southern University System down. That would solve a lot of problems.
    From students or what?

    Satellit-izing it might be a better idea.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Quote Originally Posted by KSDAWG View Post
    the impact it would have on Lincoln Parish is devastating.
    This statement is why nothing will ever, ever get done.
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    From students or what?

    Satellit-izing it might be a better idea.
    Like turning Grambling State University into the Louisiana Tech Grambling campus with a focus on pre-law? Grambling keeps the campus open under Tech's leadership while giving the campus a focused mission.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Quote Originally Posted by TechAlum05 View Post
    Like turning Grambling State University into the Louisiana Tech Grambling campus with a focus on pre-law? Grambling keeps the campus open under Tech's leadership while giving the campus a focused mission.
    Which marching band would we keep?
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Which marching band would we keep?
    There is only one way to determine this:

    Dance-off.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    This statement is why nothing will ever, ever get done.
    I didn't say it was the right or wrong thing to do. Facts are facts. You take away a 4 year college from a rural parish is devastating. Thats no more football saturday income for the local business, no more houseing for the thousands of folks in Grambling, so on and so on. If SUSBO or SUNO closed shop there would be more outcry than impact. A small commuter college in a large metro area wouldn't make a dent.

    I am opposed to HBCS as I believe that it alienates a large populous in order to endure another. Grambling St. is a historical instituition that deserves to still be in existance but like most HBCS they are finding that their options are limited in this day in age. I am hopeful that they could survive, but I also realize that we are bloated with 4 year institutions with redundant curriculums. ULM should have never been a 4 year school and neither should LSUS, SUNO, LSUA and so on.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    Quote Originally Posted by KSDAWG View Post
    I didn't say it was the right or wrong thing to do. Facts are facts. You take away a 4 year college from a rural parish is devastating. Thats no more football saturday income for the local business, no more houseing for the thousands of folks in Grambling, so on and so on. If SUSBO or SUNO closed shop there would be more outcry than impact. A small commuter college in a large metro area wouldn't make a dent.

    I am opposed to HBCS as I believe that it alienates a large populous in order to endure another. Grambling St. is a historical instituition that deserves to still be in existance but like most HBCS they are finding that their options are limited in this day in age. I am hopeful that they could survive, but I also realize that we are bloated with 4 year institutions with redundant curriculums. ULM should have never been a 4 year school and neither should LSUS, SUNO, LSUA and so on.
    And nobody will agree to close the university in their city because closing them is devastating to their city. Having this many universities in our state is devastating to our state. What can't go on, won't.
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    I agree sorta. At some point in the near future the weak links will be pruned out of neccessity. SUNO, and Grambling with all their in fighting and money issues have set them up as prime targets.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    The only way to do this is to close administrations of some of the 4 year universities and keep them as satellite campuses of the successful universities. They keep their name and their professors (although, duplicate programs would eventually be cut and lay off by attrition of some profs). Combine all administrative functions into lsu, Tech, and ULL.

    On down the road, a decision to make some into 2 year schools could be made. It won't be popular, but it WILL work and will be more palatable than closing them down in one motion. Plus, it lets the economies of the area adjust slowly. It is a quick help on budget, as well.

    Won't happen, though. Hard decisions are not a common commodity in politics.

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    Re: South Carolina House Panel votes to close South Carolina State University for 2 y

    The state legislature should select a committee of insiders and outsiders and commission it to make a recommendation about the future of Louisiana higher education. The legislation establishing the committee should clearly state that the recommendation of the committee is to be voted on in whole, without amendment. An up or down vote is the only way that I see any progress being made toward consolidation, closures, etc.

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