They were extra teams from the PAC12. They had no leverage. C-USA and the MWC did.Originally Posted by boxerdog
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They were extra teams from the PAC12. They had no leverage. C-USA and the MWC did.
the Pac-12 gets the bowls they want. they didn't want the Arizona bowl. they could've placed Arizona in the Arizona Bowl but they didn't want it. the only deal we could have made with MWC would be to send one of OUR teams to Arizona. None of our teams wanted that because it would've sucked.
Have you considered those Dogs?
Who did the MWC send to New Orleans last year? Nobody cares! You guys are greatly overestimating the perception of playing the SunBelt champions verses some mid-tier MWC school.
Have you considered those Dogs?
HOD Bowl was impressed with USM's crowd at the championship game in Ruston.
You don't know that. Again, the Pac12 had no leverage.
See question for thread title. What did they offer?
It matters to our fan base if you couldn't tell, and it will definitely matter in recruiting if we lose to a Belcher.
With a competent and willing AD, there is no reason this swap couldn't have happened.
New Orleans Bowl: Air Force vs. Arkansas State
Armed Forces Bowl: Colorado State vs. Louisiana Tech
Arizona Bowl: Cal vs. Nevada
Either our AD isn't competent, or he wasn't willing. Both are equally disturbing.
Would Cal have had to agree with that? I'm sure Armed Forces would want them over us.
The PAC-12 didn't want that. CUSA would have a team in the Arizona Bowl.
Have you considered those Dogs?
The HOD and Armed Forces are all the same bunch. It's much more complicated than just saying what they want. P12 did not have a tie in while C-USA did (indirectly)
Again, the PAC12 was out of options. Now if you want to argue what ESPN wanted you may be on to something.
The Pac-12 had no leverage. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. The Pac-12 was getting stuck with what's leftover. They had no primary or secondary tie-ins remaining, and their only other option was the Cure Bowl in Orlando on CBSSN vs. a 6-6 Belcher. The MWC was the only other conference with a leftover team. That means the Pac-12 had no leverage whatsoever.
In addition, the Arizona Bowl is not as bad as some of y'all are making it out to be. The Armed Forces Forces Bowl will be played at noon PST on a workday while the Arizona Bowl will be played in primetime. ASN will have by far their largest clearance in history for this bowl game, mostly on network TV and their sister stations in almost every market. It's really not a bad deal.
I think the NO bowl got the matchup they wanted. For us to do the horse trading, we would have had to basically say we were going to the Arizona bowl and then work on a trade. The risk is obviously getting stuck in the Arizona bowl. It doesn't look like many teams were willing to trade with them. I think New Orleans wanted us though out of the available teams. Turning them down may have burned a bridge with them.
P5 teams always have leverage. That's who bowls want. Armed Forces feels like they hit a homerun.
They would not have been "turned down".
This 2012 IBowl, which was not turned down, keeps rearing is confusing head.
C-USA has a tie in to N.O.. The C-USA commish and our AD were making the deal(s). It looks like our commish took care of her AAC alma mater instead of her own conference.
It's Air Force's 5th Armed Forces Bowl since 2007 and a rematch of the 2007 Armed Forces Bowl featuring teams time zones away. I don't think anybody with the Armed Forces Bowl is calling this a home run, especially when Dykes didn't even show up for the bowl press conference.
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