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    Re: What Will You Do?

    The irony is that these Republicans are voting for Trump because they are mad at the establishment. They believe the establishment is a bunch of Democrats, or "RINOs." Trump is the definition of a RINO. He's even been a DINO recently. It changes yearly. They are casting a protest vote for the exact thing they believe they are protesting.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Perón Perón Perón Perón
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by longdawgview View Post
    Many Independents and Republicans will vote that way, consistently the data and polls have said that Trump doesn't stand a chance against Hillary. Trump wouldn't even beat Sanders and that is just sad.
    Sanders beats Trump because if you're going to make the world burn, it's best to get all the free stuff you can before it happens.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avi8r View Post
    I dont like the idea of voting for one person to avoid the other from getting in office. I feel you should vote someone that represents similar ideas you have, even if its not popular. At this point you are deciding who to vote for based on what political identity the candidate presents themselves(red or blue). But, if you are voting based on to prevent Hillary or a Democrat in office remember that Trump did run as a Democrat in the past. It might not be the most accurate assumption that he is a sincere candidate for the republican nomination.

    Not the most trustworthy candidate:
    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
    I don't generally trust Politifact as a matter of principle, and not just when they happen to agree with me.

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    I will NEVER vote for a democrap, ever! They are the most evil, lowest form of scum to crawl on God's green Earth. They are so vile even Satan wants nothing to do with them and has created a separate Hell just for them.

    Get out and vote! Maybe Trump will start to falter under the weight of his ego. That is a lot to carry, ya know.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Trump has already destroyed what was left of the Republican Party. The Republican Party is the walking dead.
    The republican party destroyed the republican party. Trump did nothing but walk into the void they created by not listening to those that have been voting for them for generations.

    The RINOs rode the tea party wave into the majorities in both the house and senate, then spent the next years telling everyone the tea party folks were idiots and hard to deal with as the "elites" made deal after deal with the democrats. Then, to make matters worse, the dems further shamed them by winning back the majorities in both houses (the tea party folks just didn't bother to vote for them again...wonder why), where they shoved a bunch of legislation through that nobody really wanted. Without the tea party, the republican party would have died long ago.

    When in the whitehouse, republicans usually try to show how far left they can go to accomodate the democrats. I would guess that had Romney been elected, he would have "reached across the aisle" (something the dems never do unless it is completely on their terms) and passed some sort of government run healthcare and probably a bunch of gun control laws that would do little to stop gun violence, but would pave the way for further cuts into bill of rights in the name of "common sense".

    I'll vote for Trump because I think that is a great way to tell folks like Mitch McConnell, John McCain and John Boenher and the rest of the RINO elites to listen to the people that elected them.

    As far as how Trump will govern.....well, much like Romney would have. Just to the right of Hillary most of the time, but at the very least he will slow the intrusion and growth of government.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    It's a trust issue with me. I can't vote for someone I don't trust. I don't want that blood on my hands if he is elected. And I don't think he is very much different from Hillary on the big issues. (depending on what he's feeling on that particular day).
    Quote Originally Posted by Built4Speed View Post
    Same with me. That's exactly why I don't like Hillary, as well. They're both nothing but power-hungry sociopaths that aren't going to know what to do with the power if and when one of them gets it. It's all about the title and being able to say "F--- you, I'm the President."
    Then you are voting for Hillary and probably stayed at home the last election as well which was a vote for Obama. This is just one of those times that we have to vote against the worse of two stinkos.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    The irony is that these Republicans are voting for Trump because they are mad at the establishment. They believe the establishment is a bunch of Democrats, or "RINOs." Trump is the definition of a RINO. He's even been a DINO recently. It changes yearly. They are casting a protest vote for the exact thing they believe they are protesting.
    Anybody but Hillary, Biden or Sanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    The republican party destroyed the republican party.
    I stand corrected. I agree the Republican Party has been committing seppuku for over a decade. Trump will just finish them off.
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Anybody but Hillary, Biden or Sanders.
    Overly broad statement.
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEK View Post
    If you want change, you have to start with someone that doesn't give a shit...Trump doesn't give a shit.
    Main reason I like him. Republicans need to take a HARD look at what has made Trump successful and repackage the next crop of candidates. People are tired of the politically correct bs.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    From Laura Ingraham's blog. Her politics and mine at pretty much the same. It is a good read and accurate. I place no trust in the HBO, MSNBC, CNN, etc. snippets posted here and elsewhere...I've been interviewed and the result looked nothing like I remembered the encounter...and I was the one answering the questions!

    The Suicide of the GOP Establishment posted By Laura Ingraham on February 29, 2016 @ 10:40 AM

    Here is something to think about as we approach Super Tuesday.

    If Marco Rubio becomes president, we can expect:

    1.) That he will work with Democrats and the GOP leadership in Congress to pass something that looks like the Gang of Eight amnesty bill.
    2.) That he will urge Congress to pass any trade agreements that Obama has signed.
    3.) That he will send significant numbers of U.S. troops to the Middle East.
    4.) That his foreign policy will be developed by many of the same people who advised George W. Bush.
    5.) That his economic policy will reflect the views of those who were in power when the United States was hit by the economic crisis of 2008.

    Now, I don’t think any of these points are truly controversial. Somewhere, there may be naďve people who actually believe that Rubio will put border enforcement first. But all sophisticated analysts of politics — including the folks at National Review — certainly expect that a President Rubio will support the same type of amnesty that was supported by Sen. Rubio. And on the other issues, Rubio has not even pretended that he will break with the Obama/Bush trade policy, the Bush foreign policy, or the Bush economic policy.

    For almost eight years, it has been increasingly clear that many, many Republicans — probably a majority of the party — do not agree with any of the five principles outlined above. Time and time again, grassroots and movement conservatives have expressed their opposition to all five of the key planks in Rubio’s platform. These Republicans do not support the Gang of Eight bill. They do not support Obama’s trade deals. They do not want to spend huge amounts of blood and treasure again in the Middle East. And they most certainly do not want the economy to look like it did in the fall of 2008.

    These voters have tried, through every means available, to make their opposition felt. They are the reason that Eric Cantor is no longer in the House. They are the reason that the Gang of Eight bill didn't pass. They are the reason that John Boehner is no longer speaker. And they are the reason that Donald Trump and Ted Cruz have dominated the polls for months.

    Many people have urged the Rubio donor network, think-tank fellows and media supporters to back off on their policy demands — to do more than simply acknowledge "the voters are right to be angry.” In fact, Gov. Chris Christie advocated for compromise during a speech at St. Anselm’s College earlier this year. People such as former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan wrote recently that the GOP must be more sensitive to the concerns of working-class voters, whom she dubbed the "unprotected."

    Nevertheless, even today, the Rubio supporters refuse to budge. They could have supported Govs. Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal, Christie, or Carly Fiorina. Even today, they could support Gov. John Kasich or Sen. Ted Cruz. But from the beginning, most of the Rubio supporters have made it clear that they are only willing to support two people: Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. They have shot down every other candidate who has been offered. And many have publicly and privately threatened to bolt the party and support Hillary Clinton if they don't get their way.

    Furthermore, the Rubio supporters have, for the most part, flatly refused even to debate the policy issues at stake here. They will not even discuss changing our trade policy. They make some noises about immigration enforcement, but this is not done in a spirit of compromise, but with the arrogance of those who know that no one really expects them to change their views if they win. For all the complaints about Trump’s policy generalities, Establishment GOP types have not even pretended to engage in a serious debate. Their offer is simple: You do as we say, or we will throw the election to Hillary.

    Ironically, last summer these same people were obsessing about nailing Trump down with that debate pledge to support whomever the GOP nominated.

    Haven't we seen this over and over and over? Didn't they do the same thing in 2008, when they shot down Mike Huckabee? Didn't they do it in 2012, when they shot down Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum? Didn't we see it last year, when they gave over $100 million to Jeb before the race had even begun?

    It is this fanaticism — this complete unwillingness to change their policy or even to debate the possibility of serious change — that has put us in the position we are today.

    This is the reason old Reaganites like Pat Buchanan and Phyllis Schlafly understand and are looking kindly on Trump's campaign, because they know you must utterly rout the Establishment in order to change policy.

    This is the reason people like Senator Jeff Sessions and Sarah Palin are supporting Trump — because they understand that compromise is impossible with an entrenched oligarchy.

    This is the reason Christie has endorsed Trump — because he recognizes that Rubio and his supporters will lead us down a path that will be disastrous for the party.

    As a committed conservative for more than three decades, I am not happy about the potential break-up of the GOP. I have supported the Republican Party for almost 40 years, and I fully intended to support it for the rest of my life. I have great respect and admiration for many of the people in the Rubio camp, and I know we have won important victories together.

    But I do not see how things can go on as they are now. I do not see how you can ask the working-class people of this country to support a collection of policies that have failed them over and over and over.

    What do the Rubio supporters think? That he is a better administrator than George W. Bush? That he will staff his administration with better people? That somehow his youth, or his background, will magically make the same policies that failed in the 2000s begin to work?

    Of course, they do not say. Even today, with the fate of the party at stake, their only argument is to attack Trump and his supporters, to call them stupid, racist, nativist, and isolationist and every other epithet they can lift from the editorial pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post.

    In the end, they have left the opponents of the status quo no choice — they must either defeat Rubio, and radically change the power structure of the GOP, or they must watch Obama's immigration policy, Obama's trade policy, Bush’s foreign policy, and Bush’s economic policy, be implemented.

    On Tuesday, we’ll know how the voters react to those alternatives.
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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Anybody but Hillary, Biden or Sanders.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Overly broad statement.
    Not at all. America can't exist with 8 more years of a Obama on steroids (Hillary or Biden) or a pure socialist in Col. Sanders.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Thanks for posting that by great essay by L. Ingraham.

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    Re: What Will You Do?

    Again I voted for Cruz. But for those that call Trump a fascist, here's a good article for you to read.

    Fears of Trump as Fascist
    Echo Similar Warnings
    Against Ronald Reagan


    By IRA STOLL, Special to the Sun | February 29, 2016

    http://www.nysun.com/national/fears-...arnings/89476/

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