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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    The two programs have been residing at different levels for the past couple of decades. We've needed some mid-week games we could win. No sense rehashing the whole Sim travesty....water under the bridge. But, now, going forward, we are ready to drop SWAC teams and schedule for RPI. For 2016, the schedule was what it was. Hopefully, we'll get in the Dance anyway. Just schedule better from now on.
    I've already explained this. I'm not complaining about our schedule this year. Nobody thought we would have a chance at an at-large bid. Our goals for this season were to win 30 games and to qualify for the C-USA Tournament. I was just explaining why ULL has a higher RPI than us. The difference is simply that we played several SWAC teams while ULL played at MMP. That's a fact. However, going forward, Grambling should be the only SWAC team on our schedule.

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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by TechFanno1 View Post
    Why is USL so high?
    meth

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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by TechFanno1 View Post
    again as someone has already asked? Why is USL so high? Explain it to me one more time.
    Great NON-CONFERENCE Scheduling - first 7 games are top 50 - next 2 are around 100. Most of mid-week games are Top 100 - Nicholls State being an exception.



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    Re: RPI

    Boyd's world has a great list of teams we need to schedule of course this is based off this year.

    http://www.boydsworld.com/sa/louisiana_tech.html

    Opponents marked in red will do damage to the team's RPI, even if the team beats them. Opponents marked in yellow will do damage if the team loses to them. Opponents marked in green will improve RPI, even if the team loses to them.
    Potential Opponents, < 150 Miles
    Opponent Distance W L WP OWP Contribution
    Alcorn State 99.39 13 36 0.265 0.418 0.237
    Arkansas-Pine Bluff 122.42 22 25 0.468 0.403 0.335
    Grambling State 3.41 17 27 0.386 0.396 0.292
    Jackson State 143.84 25 26 0.490 0.366 0.337
    Louisiana-Monroe 34.24 20 35 0.364 0.551 0.320
    Northwestern State 59.98 33 22 0.600 0.546 0.436
    Stephen F. Austin State 134.00 27 28 0.491 0.523 0.376

    Potential Opponents, > 150 Miles and < 300 Miles
    Opponent Distance W L WP OWP Contribution
    Arkansas 258.53 26 29 0.473 0.553 0.375
    Arkansas State 255.38 27 27 0.500 0.526 0.382
    Arkansas-Little Rock 153.06 26 26 0.500 0.530 0.383
    Baylor 269.58 24 27 0.471 0.563 0.376
    Central Arkansas 176.74 28 25 0.528 0.526 0.396
    Dallas Baptist 250.19 37 17 0.685 0.535 0.476
    Houston 250.81 33 22 0.600 0.533 0.433
    Houston Baptist 259.03 24 29 0.453 0.487 0.348
    Lamar 191.81 35 17 0.673 0.508 0.464
    Louisiana State 170.18 39 17 0.696 0.597 0.497
    Louisiana-Lafayette 164.05 37 19 0.661 0.571 0.473
    McNeese State 166.18 29 23 0.558 0.500 0.404
    Memphis 236.76 19 37 0.339 0.504 0.295
    Mississippi 220.03 40 16 0.714 0.584 0.503
    Mississippi State 232.60 40 14 0.741 0.570 0.513
    New Orleans 231.24 30 24 0.556 0.539 0.413
    Nicholls State 218.85 26 30 0.464 0.498 0.357
    Prairie View A&M 259.58 8 32 0.200 0.396 0.199
    Rice 253.68 32 20 0.615 0.559 0.447
    Sam Houston State 211.27 37 19 0.661 0.509 0.458
    South Alabama 291.90 38 18 0.679 0.516 0.469
    Southeastern Louisiana 189.69 36 18 0.667 0.514 0.462
    Southern 163.52 10 31 0.244 0.422 0.227
    Southern Mississippi 211.12 36 18 0.667 0.551 0.471
    Texas A&M 254.67 41 13 0.759 0.583 0.525
    Texas Christian 274.97 38 14 0.731 0.540 0.500
    Texas Southern 251.65 19 23 0.452 0.400 0.326
    Texas-Arlington 260.96 29 26 0.527 0.532 0.397
    Tulane 233.06 37 17 0.685 0.530 0.475

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    Re: RPI

    There are 300 DI teams.

    We scheduled:
    298. Prairie View A&M (Urban Invitational)
    296. Southern (Urban Invitational)
    293. Alcorn State
    285. Grambling State
    285. Grambling State

    That's the reason we aren't Top 25 right now.

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    Re: RPI

    According to warrennolan.com, USL had the toughest (as in #1 in the nation) SOS in OOC games. Although they were only 16-10 in the OOC games, their RPI in those OOC games was #7 nationally.

    Our OOC record of 18-5 with a SOS of 164 gave us an OOC RPI of 31.

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    Re: RPI

    Schedule SLU, Dallas Baptist, Baylor, Houston, McNeese, Miss St and Ole Miss, UTA, USL/ULL, and Arkansas every year. To heck with the worthless SWAC teams.

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    Re: RPI

    Although the names of the teams may be different, the same scheduling philosophy should be applied in men's basketball that is being advocated for baseball. In OOC games, schedule winning teams with good schedules and then WIN them.

    It's a combination of our performance and the performance of our opponents and the opponent's opponents that make up the math formula used to calculate the RPI. Just as in basketball, the major conferences may lock us out from their schedule if we get too good.

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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by HoDo-Tech70 View Post
    Although the names of the teams may be different, the same scheduling philosophy should be applied in men's basketball that is being advocated for baseball. In OOC games, schedule winning teams with good schedules and then WIN them.

    It's a combination of our performance and the performance of our opponents and the opponent's opponents that make up the math formula used to calculate the RPI. Just as in basketball, the major conferences may lock us out from their schedule if we get too good.
    The one caveat: C-USA is a major conference in baseball.

    Teams will be looking to schedule us, hopefully.

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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by LATechBanjo View Post
    The one caveat: C-USA is a major conference in baseball.

    Teams will be looking to schedule us, hopefully.
    Yes, hopefully that will be the case.

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    Re: RPI

    What makes that poll so bad is that Tech swept both ULL and Rice and Tech is ranked below them. It appears that only what you do in the first half of the season counts. Tech went 18-12 in the first 30 games and 19-4 in the last 23. That's backwards thinking. It appears that you only have to play good teams to get a high ranking. It doesn't matter whether you win or lose.

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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    What makes that poll so bad is that Tech swept both ULL and Rice and Tech is ranked below them. It appears that only what you do in the first half of the season counts. Tech went 18-12 in the first 30 games and 19-4 in the last 23. That's backwards thinking. It appears that you only have to play good teams to get a high ranking. It doesn't matter whether you win or lose.
    Logic does not apply to RPI. Wins, Losses, and SOS are used (we have a very weak SOS compared to LaLaff and Rice). Head to head is not used to directly determine ranking. The poll does not necessarily rank which teams are "better" than others, but it gives a very good indication of which teams are the top teams in the country.

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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    What makes that poll so bad is that Tech swept both ULL and Rice and Tech is ranked below them. It appears that only what you do in the first half of the season counts. Tech went 18-12 in the first 30 games and 19-4 in the last 23. That's backwards thinking. It appears that you only have to play good teams to get a high ranking. It doesn't matter whether you win or lose.
    Yes, RPI sucks, but RPI isn't a poll. It's a computer ranking. Everybody knows the formula. There are ways to game it like ULL did. RPI is archaic and needs a better replacement. Basketball has a credible alternative to RPI (KenPom) and a few others. The only alternative for baseball that I know of is ISR, and I don't know if anybody really pays attention to it.

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    Re: RPI

    RPI is a ranking, but it's not a poll. It shouldn't be used to determine who is "best". That's what head-to-head play is for.

    Rather, RPI is useful in evaluating who "deserves it" more ... that is, who accomplished more over the course of a season.

    Tech is better than Rice by virtue of it's sweep over the Owls. But Rice (by their RPI) did more to earn a post-season berth by virtue of their results against a tougher schedule over the course of the season.

    That said... while RPI can be a helpful tool in comparing teams' season, but it shouldn't be used as the be-all-end-all metric for determining who's in and who's out of the tournament. But as a jumping-off point for further discussion, it's not terrible.

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    Re: RPI

    Quote Originally Posted by TechFanno1 View Post
    They lost to us twice but basically it did not lower USL in RPI? Must not be an exact science.
    Exactly. This is what happens when you give old jocks (AD's) a calculator and ask them to come up with a playoff qualifying system. Truth is, if they were good with calculators in the first place they would be doing something else for a living.

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