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Has the Newstar reported on this?
They're digging around for any kind of a juco offset story they can put on the front page. Then they might put this on page 7.Originally Posted by skilldawg
Good old Memorial Gym
How does Lafayette offset? They use some obscure ranking that does not include national universities right?
Wow even Centenary beat ULOL.
LSU #171 Tech #392 in the nation. And, that is the best Louisiana can do? Anyone else thinking....hmmmmm, well, there are 50 states (or 57 states if you're obummer) and one would think....hope...that Louisiana would, by law of averages, kind of have a school in the top 50, or at least close to it. Being ranked like this, to me, is kind of like being the tallest dwarf in the room.
Now, don't get your panties in a wad. I am always glad to see Tech ranked higher than other state schools, which really, is only telling us something we already knew: Tech is the best! But, looking at this from 30,000 feet shouldn't all Louisianians be concerned we aren't doing better in the national rankings? In the bigger picture this reflects poorly on the state.
We have no money.
You omitted Tulane (No. 129).
Most of the schools ranked ahead of Tech are small private schools most people have never heard of. When you compare Tech to our national research university peers, Tech is No. 161. Take out the private schools, and Tech ranks No. 122 among all public colleges. Tech is ranked No. 81 of all colleges in the South. That's all pretty good considering Tech doesn't have the resources of a state flagship university, and Louisiana has cut higher ed more than anybody.
You should probably read about the rankings before drawing ridiculous conclusions.
But NORTHWESTERN STATE IS #9 IN THE NATION, y'all!
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That is certainly a valid point, but meter that thought with the fact that there are over 3,000 4-year colleges in the US alone. I was in Boston a few years back talking with some of the faculty from Olin College and mentioned that Louisiana has way too many universities. They replied with the fact that the greater Boston area alone had more than 80 colleges and universities (yes 80, not 8). So look at it as #392 out of 3,000 and you are suddenly top 15% material. Disclaimer for fairness, Forbes does not rank all 3,000.LSU #171 Tech #392 in the nation. And, that is the best Louisiana can do? Anyone else thinking....hmmmmm, well, there are 50 states (or 57 states if you're obummer) and one would think....hope...that Louisiana would, by law of averages, kind of have a school in the top 50, or at least close to it. Being ranked like this, to me, is kind of like being the tallest dwarf in the room.
Now, don't get your panties in a wad. I am always glad to see Tech ranked higher than other state schools, which really, is only telling us something we already knew: Tech is the best! But, looking at this from 30,000 feet shouldn't all Louisianians be concerned we aren't doing better in the national rankings? In the bigger picture this reflects poorly on the state.
Where does Louisiana rank, compared to the other 49 states, in colleges per capita? I'm surprised that Boston has 80, but the Boston metro population is about the same as the entire state of Louisiana. The state of Massachusetts also has more money to support colleges, and their private colleges are actually private, unlike Tulane who receives state funds. When it comes to funding colleges, I agree with you that Louisiana has too many.
There are 54 colleges/universities in Boston metro area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...politan_Boston
I couldn’t sleep and was bored. So….
I used this Wikipedia page for population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population
I used this list for number of institutions.
http://www.univsearch.com/state.php
Louisiana has 173 institutions for a population of 4,670,724.
Per capita, Louisiana has 3.7039 institutions per 100,000 citizens.
This ranks us 14th.
State 2015 Population No. of Institutions Per Capita West Virginia 1,844,128 99 5.3684 Montant 1,032,949 54 5.2278 Vermont 626,042 32 5.1115 Alaska 738,432 35 4.7398 Maine 1,329,328 60 4.5136 Pennsylvania 12,802,503 544 4.2492 Oklahoma 3,911,338 158 4.0395 Missouri 6,083,672 242 3.9779 North Dakota 756,927 30 3.9634 South Dakota 858,469 33 3.8441 Massachusetts 6,794,422 261 3.8414 Kentucky 4,425,092 165 3.7287 Louisiana 4,670,724 173 3.7039 Arkansas 2,978,204 108 3.6263 Nebraska 1,896,190 68 3.5861 Rhode Island 1,056,298 37 3.5028 Iowa 3,123,899 107 3.4252 Kansas 2,911,641 99 3.4001 Ohio 11,613,423 386 3.3237 New Hampshire 1,330,608 43 3.2316 New York 19,795,791 632 3.1926 California 39,144,818 1246 3.1831 Connecticut 3,590,886 114 3.1747 Colorado 5,456,574 171 3.1338 Oregon 4,028,977 125 3.1025 Minnesota 5,489,594 169 3.0786 Michigan 9,922,576 302 3.0436 Illinois 12,859,995 391 3.0404 Hawaii 1,431,603 43 3.0036 New Mexico 2,085,109 61 2.9255 Wyoming 586,107 17 2.9005 Tennessee 6,600,299 191 2.8938 Nevada 2,890,845 77 2.6636 Alabama 4,858,979 129 2.6549 Virginia 8,382,993 222 2.6482 Indiana 6,619,680 175 2.6436 Maryland 6,006,401 148 2.4640 Delaware 945,934 23 2.4315 New Jersey 8,958,013 207 2.3108 Mississippi 2,992,333 69 2.3059 Washington 7,170,351 164 2.2872 Wisconsin 5,771,337 132 2.2872 Arizona 6,828,065 155 2.2700 Florida 20,271,272 439 2.1656 Georgia 10,214,860 210 2.0558 Utah 2,995,919 60 2.0027 Idaho 1,654,930 33 1.9940 South Carolina 4,896,146 97 1.9812 North Carolina 10,042,802 188 1.8720 Texas 27,469,114 506 1.8421
I fully admit I probably screwed it up. It WAS 1 AM...
If possible I would split it out into 4-year colleges and community/technical colleges. Without seeing the data, I believe most states have a higher technical/community college per capita, these institutions are cheaper/easier to run and usually every mid to small city has one. I think Louisiana's ratio is very heavy in 4-year institutions per capita which hurts us.
I agree with that assessment. Remember, though that Nichols, LSUS and ULM all started as two year colleges, maybe even UNO and there is still LSUA and LSUE. And in the old days you could get a teaching certificate from Northwestern without a degree. Louisiana did have "trade schools". There was one in Minden and in Natchitoches (no, not Northwestern). I am not familiar with other parts of the state in that regard.
I believe that when the directional schools were founded they were really meant to server the local area. Tech was the only one founded to be state wide. I'm not including LSUBR but the regional LSU's were for regional students -- maybe to feed LSUBR. Now they are all competing for students from all across the state and from out of state because they have to be big.
LSUA has been a four year since Foster was our Governor.
I didn't know that. Thanks. When was Foster Governor?
1860: LSU -> Seminary of Learning of the State of Louisiana
1880: Southern University -> Southern College
1884: Northwestern State -> Louisiana State Normal School (2-years)
1894: Louisiana Tech -> Industrial Institute and College of Louisiana
1901: UL-Lafayette -> Southwestern Louisiana Industrial Institute
1901: Grambling State -> The Colored Industrial and Agricultural School
1925: Southeastern Louisiana -> Hammond Junior College (started as a 2-year school; 4-year school in 1938)
1931: UL-Monroe -> Ouachita Parish Junior College (started as a 2-year school; 4-year school in 1950)
1939: McNeese State -> Lake Charles Junior College (started as a 2-year school; 4-year school in 1950)
1948: Nicholls State -> Francis T. Nicholls Junior College (started as a 2-year school)
1956: Southern University at New Orleans
1958: University of New Orleans -> LSU in New Orleans
1961: LSU of Alexandria (started as a 2-year school; 4-year school in 2002)
1967: Southern University at Shreveport (still a 2-year school)
1967: LSU Eunice (still a 2-year school)
1967: LSU in Shreveport (started as a 2-year school; 4-year school in 1972)
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