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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    Bingo. It is a financial model issue. Obamacare failed to change the model. All it did was exacerbate what is wrong with the model and speed the approaching collapse up several limiting factors. You guys think the housing bubble burst loudly? Just wait.
    You went way over his head with that explanation. He really believes Obamacare was the answer. Going up 15 to 50 percent due to government intervention is much better than going up 10% under the old laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    You went way over his head with that explanation. He really believes Obamacare was the answer. Going up 15 to 50 percent due to government intervention is much better than going up 10% under the old laws.
    I can only assume you're talking about me since RD's post quoted mine. How can you say I really believe Obamacare was the answer? I've never argued for Obamacare. Not once in my life. I do like the theory as a Type 1 diabetic, since it would be nice to be able to have insurance without getting it through an employer should I find myself in that situation someday. But I don't have to have it right now. I was just pointing out to people who gripe about their premiums going up with Obamacare -- and I've read a lot of those types of comments on Facebook -- that those of us who have private insurance through an employer are facing the same type of situation. My insurance premiums have continued to increase every single year. It's not an Obamacare issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Well at least you kept yours. Mine, United Health Care, where I had to pay mega extra to keep my doctors, is being cancelled again (Dec 31, 2016) for East Texas!!!
    Dumb ass socialist democrats!!!
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    You're lucky. My son's insurance has gone up about 50% each of the last two years. The clinic where my doctor is located will not take my insurance, United Health Care. I've read recently where United Health Care, Aetna, and Humana are all getting out of Obamacare. It's another bureaucratic mess by the Obama administration.
    The second year in a ow my health insurance has been canceled. And yes it is Obamacare and the socialist Dems like Pelosi, Reid, Obama and Hillary's and fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    The second year in a ow my health insurance has been canceled. And yes it is Obamacare and the socialist Dems like Pelosi, Reid, Obama and Hillary's and fault.
    they have only made it worse...albeit much worse.

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    The republicans and democrats arguing about what to do with obamacare is like them arguing over which bike path to take to get from Europe to Austrailia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    My insurance premiums have continued to increase every single year. It's not an Obamacare issue.
    Obamacare has no regulation on how much it can go up each year. It goes up based on costs. When sick people are forced into a "law of large numbers" group the costs increase as Obamacare was designed to do. Group health insurance goes up (or down) based on the experience of the group. Yes, some small groups premiums remain the same or go down each year. It is also regulated on how much it can increase each year.

    Obamacare is not insurance. It is a social program.

    By definition your group policy is still insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    The republicans and democrats arguing about what to do with obamacare is like them arguing over which bike path to take to get from Europe to Austrailia.


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    My rates accelerated after Obamacare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    My rates accelerated after Obamacare.
    The two exceptions in Louisiana have been grandfathered individual plans and small healthy groups. I've seen both premiums stay level or actually decrease. They are both insurance by definition while Obamacare is not.

    Obamacare = going to purchase a fire policy on your home AFTER it has burned to the ground.

    BTW, our governor and his sheeple voters said Obamacare premiums would go down in Louisiana after medicaid expansion was signed into law. Typical democrat crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    The two exceptions in Louisiana have been grandfathered individual plans and small healthy groups. I've seen both premiums stay level or actually decrease. They are both insurance by definition while Obamacare is not.

    Obamacare = going to purchase a fire policy on your home AFTER it has burned to the ground.

    BTW, our governor and his sheeple voters said Obamacare premiums would go down in Louisiana after medicaid expansion was signed into law. Typical democrat crap.
    What the crap kind of alternative universe are those people living in? I must have missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    What the crap kind of alternative universe are those people living in? I must have missed that.
    I would like to know the source of that myself. It just doesn't seem possible. The company I work for is losing membership to Medicaid expansion, but not so much that our claims payouts would decrease to the point where our premiums wouldn't increase next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    The two exceptions in Louisiana have been grandfathered individual plans and small healthy groups. I've seen both premiums stay level or actually decrease. They are both insurance by definition while Obamacare is not.

    Obamacare = going to purchase a fire policy on your home AFTER it has burned to the ground.

    BTW, our governor and his sheeple voters said Obamacare premiums would go down in Louisiana after medicaid expansion was signed into law. Typical democrat crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    What the crap kind of alternative universe are those people living in? I must have missed that.

    The current funding model for Medicaid that the state uses leaves nearly 300,000 people without health insurance, mostly the working poor. Supporters of Medicaid expansion say that if those patients were covered, they would be less likely to seek treatment in emergency rooms, which drives up the cost of care.

    "Bringing $16 billion of our taxes home is probably the most fiscally conservative idea that has been suggested to finance health care since Bobby Jindal took office," Edwards said in a statement. "The independent Legislative Fiscal Office estimated that Edwards' health care legislation referenced in the attack ad would save $52 million for the state in the first year alone, and would have prevented the federal government from sending $1.6 billion a year in Louisiana taxes to other states."

    they also calculated savings. States would not only get the direct federal money, but would save the money that taxpayers end up spending on so-called uncompensated care – when sick or injured uninsured people show up in emergency rooms seeking treatment.

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    Hillary Clinton wants to bring 500,000 more immigrants into our country and put them on medicaid, welfare, and give them free housing. Who do you think will pay for this? It won't come out of those million dollar speeches she and Bill made.

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