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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    For all we know he may have been in his driveway when the police showed up. I am very curious as to whether RPD made a special effort to report this to the media. The NS obviously made a special effort to make it front page news. It doesn't make sense.
    The Ruston Police Department didn't try to make this front page news. A DWI by the projected starting quarterback at the local college is front page news on its own.

    Not that it matters, because the story is true, but yes, Ryan Higgans is a public figure.
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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by TechAlum05 View Post
    From Sean Isabella on Twitter:

    "Skip Holtz announces Ryan Higgins won't be starting QB against Arkansas following DWI arrest" "To clarify, Ryan Higgins isn't suspended. He just won't start against Arkansas"

    "Higgins will also be subject to counseling and community service. Reinstatement [as starting QB] to team will be based on how he progresses w. discipline"

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Yep, handled nicely.

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    It could amount to anywhere from a one series suspension to an all season suspension. All depends on how he handles the "punishment".

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    On the one hand, what does a DWI have to do with La Tech football? Let the criminal court system deal with the offense. Are the players told in advance what will happen if they commit a crime? Are they even told their will be punishment and what it will be? If not, is that fair? What if it was for speeding? Texting and driving? Something else? Are there degrees of criminal behavior and football punishment? Is there a schedule posted somewhere? What about cheating on a test that is not a crime? Is their punishment to being on the team? Looks like smoking could effect performance more. If a player has to be perfect to play, how could we have a team or a coach? How do we punish adultry, lieing, cursing, etc. Fans with DWI can come to game. Just saying!! Ryan did a crime and he must pay the crime the court decides. He should learn. Let's support our young players and not become their judge and jury but mentor them to learn by their mistakes and become responsible adults.

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    For all we know he may have been in his driveway when the police showed up. I am very curious as to whether RPD made a special effort to report this to the media. The NS obviously made a special effort to make it front page news. It doesn't make sense.
    Any starting quarterback at any FBS school in the country would be front-page news if he got popped for DWI. It would also make ESPN and the like. Such is the world we live in and the popularity of college football. The News-Star didn't treat this any differently than if ULM's or Grambling's starting QB was arrested and charged with DWI.
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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    It could amount to anywhere from a one series suspension to an all season suspension. All depends on how he handles the "punishment".
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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by TechAlum05 View Post
    From Sean Isabella on Twitter:

    "Skip Holtz announces Ryan Higgins won't be starting QB against Arkansas following DWI arrest" "To clarify, Ryan Higgins isn't suspended. He just won't start against Arkansas"

    "Higgins will also be subject to counseling and community service. Reinstatement [as starting QB] to team will be based on how he progresses w. discipline"

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    https://twitter.com/ST_IsabellaTNS/s...98116855353345
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    I'll be very disappointed if Higgins takes a single snap against Arkansas. Not starting but still getting to play, in my opinion, isn't enough of a punishment and sends the wrong message to the rest of the team.
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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by Junk Yard Dawg View Post
    Are the players told in advance what will happen if they commit a crime? Are they even told their will be punishment and what it will be? If not, is that fair? What if it was for speeding? Texting and driving? Something else? Are there degrees of criminal behavior and football punishment? Is there a schedule posted somewhere?
    I don't know about schedules or punishments for various offenses for the football players, but I would assume the coaches let them know that breaking the law will have consequences based on the crime and when it occurs. Others with more knowledge with this can add to the discussion.

    What about cheating on a test that is not a crime? Is their punishment to being on the team?
    Cheating on a test could affect their academic standing. It also has to do with them being student athletes. So, while cheating on a test in college is not a crime in the traditional criminal justice system, it is a big no-no in the eyes of the university and the NCAA which can crack down on schools who allow student athletes to cheat on exams or commit other forms of academic fraud.

    Looks like smoking could effect performance more. If a player has to be perfect to play, how could we have a team or a coach? How do we punish adultry, lieing, cursing, etc. Fans with DWI can come to game. Just saying!!
    Don't know about smoking. Adultery, cursing, and lying aren't illegal. This isn't about players being perfect...no one is. But if a player breaks the law, the coach has to deliver some sort of punishment to the player. Otherwise, there is no disincentive to keep the player from not breaking the law again. If there is no punishment for a crime by a coach to a player, then why would the player worry about his status on the football team if he breaks the law again?

    Also, the coaches have to run a tight ship so that the NCAA doesn't bust their butts for "lack of institutional control". Penn State gto hit big time over the Jerry Sandusky child abuse scandals a few years back. Baylor is going through the same stuff with the athletes sexual assault charges right now.

    Fans with DWIs aren't necessarily the chief PR people for the university. The overwhelming majority of the general public doesn't care if Joe Blow got busted for a DWI a few weeks before a game. The student athletes are the main PR people for the university. If you play at a college football program and you get busted for a crime, it reflects poorly on the player, the program, and the university. The players should be held accountable by the judicial system AND by their respective coaches.

    On the one hand, what does a DWI have to do with La Tech football? Let the criminal court system deal with the offense. Ryan did a crime and he must pay the crime the court decides. He should learn. Let's support our young players and not become their judge and jury but mentor them to learn by their mistakes and become responsible adults.
    If you follow this train of thought to its logical conclusion, then what do crimes like rape, sexual assault, and armed robbery have to do with football? Should programs allow athletes who have been charged/arrested for these crimes to continue to participate in team activities while the criminal investigation and trial run their course? Should football players charged of rape and sexual assault be allowed to play football games if the cases have not ended yet?

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by Junk Yard Dawg View Post
    On the one hand, what does a DWI have to do with La Tech football? Let the criminal court system deal with the offense. Are the players told in advance what will happen if they commit a crime? Are they even told their will be punishment and what it will be? If not, is that fair? What if it was for speeding? Texting and driving? Something else? Are there degrees of criminal behavior and football punishment? Is there a schedule posted somewhere? What about cheating on a test that is not a crime? Is their punishment to being on the team? Looks like smoking could effect performance more. If a player has to be perfect to play, how could we have a team or a coach? How do we punish adultry, lieing, cursing, etc. Fans with DWI can come to game. Just saying!! Ryan did a crime and he must pay the crime the court decides. He should learn. Let's support our young players and not become their judge and jury but mentor them to learn by their mistakes and become responsible adults.
    I couldn't agree more with this post.

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by Junk Yard Dawg View Post
    On the one hand, what does a DWI have to do with La Tech football? Let the criminal court system deal with the offense. Are the players told in advance what will happen if they commit a crime? Are they even told their will be punishment and what it will be? If not, is that fair? What if it was for speeding? Texting and driving? Something else? Are there degrees of criminal behavior and football punishment? Is there a schedule posted somewhere? What about cheating on a test that is not a crime? Is their punishment to being on the team? Looks like smoking could effect performance more. If a player has to be perfect to play, how could we have a team or a coach? How do we punish adultry, lieing, cursing, etc. Fans with DWI can come to game. Just saying!! Ryan did a crime and he must pay the crime the court decides. He should learn. Let's support our young players and not become their judge and jury but mentor them to learn by their mistakes and become responsible adults.
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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    I'll be very disappointed if Higgins takes a single snap against Arkansas. Not starting but still getting to play, in my opinion, isn't enough of a punishment and sends the wrong message to the rest of the team.
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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

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    Re: Higgins arrested for DWI

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    Any starting quarterback at any FBS school in the country would be front-page news if he got popped for DWI. It would also make ESPN and the like. Such is the world we live in and the popularity of college football. The News-Star didn't treat this any differently than if ULM's or Grambling's starting QB was arrested and charged with DWI.
    correct if I am wrong, but do not ever recall the former Mississippi State QB from Haughton, or the many arrested LSU players having a "jailed mug" shot featured on front as was Ryan's case. If I recall not many if any mug shots of Johnny Football pictured in a disquieted moment like this. Correct me if I am wrong.

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