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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Just to play devil's advocate. Let's assume Holtz didn't throw the ball after the lead was 27-7. Same outcome... 38-34 loss. Is anyone bitching that Holtz went conservative, "turtled-up" and didn't have killer instinct? What if we had 300 yards passing in the 1st half and 60 in the 2nd half because Holtz tried to run the clock out with a run game that wasn't working? I think that would be a great case against play-calling.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Snatched defeat right out of the jaws of victory last night!!!!!!!

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    But Higgins is doing EXACTLY what I warned you all about before the season even started: HE CAN'T SCORE!!! He moves the ball at will between the 20's, but he can't cash it in. This is EXACTLY what I warned us all about.
    Through 1/3rd of the season only 15 FBS QBs have thrown more TD passes than Ryan Higgins has (and he didn't play the first game of the year). Looking over the passing stats nationally I see nobody with a better TD:INT ratio than Ryan's 10:2 performance. He started "in the hole" at 4:2, but in these last two road games has gone 6:0. His stats through his first three games are better than Cody Sokol's or Jeff Driskel's at the same point in their final season at Tech.

    Offense is NOT our problem.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    You can say that we shouldve been able to score, or we shouldnt have fumbled on the 2 yard line (which is true), BUT we should have NEVER been in the position to say these things. The defense absolutely flopped in the second half.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    We could have had 10,000 yards last night but that's not what win games. Points win games.
    BINGO! That's what some of these folks aren't understanding.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Just to play devil's advocate. Let's assume Holtz didn't throw the ball after the lead was 27-7. Same outcome... 38-34 loss. Is anyone bitching that Holtz went conservative, "turtled-up" and didn't have killer instinct? What if we had 300 yards passing in the 1st half and 60 in the 2nd half because Holtz tried to run the clock out with a run game that wasn't working? I think that would be a great case against play-calling.
    You're too stuck up on passing "stats". You're really enamored with it. You're too in love with the fact that we passed for 500 yds or whatever. Nobody gives a crap about the passing yards when we lose the game because we didn't score a single point from inside the opponents 5-yd line on two different drives.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    HD, take a look at the Defense. There is a very good reason the old saying is "Offense Sells Tickets, Defense Wins Championships" in nearly every sport.

    We can line up All-American QBs, RBs, etc but if SOMEBODY can't come up with a defensive INT or fumble recovery once in a while we're going to lose.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    I know I looked like a crazy person last week for suggesting the QB was the reason we lost to Texas Tech, but there's a difference between Texas Tech and Middle Tennessee. Everyone knew we'd have to score 60-plus points to beat Texas Tech. The Red Raiders' offense is that powerful. But our defense held MT to just 7 points in the first half before imploding in the second half. If you hold a team to 7 first-half points, 34 points should be enough to win the game. Ryan Higgins did enough to win the football game last night. It's crazy to suggest otherwise. Yes, the fumble at the 2 was inexcusable. But Higgins wasn't the one calling fade after fade on the goal line. He did what was asked of him and beyond last night, and both he and Trent Taylor deserved a win. It's a shame that our defense let them down.
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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    He didn't do "enough." We still lost. 500+ yards and only 3 TDs? That sucks. Goes right into HD's statement of not being able to close. Also: 1 receiver with triple digit yardage? High throws? Short throws? Over throws? Floating? Higgins got saved all night and still only had 61% completion.

    We are not a power school. We are not part of the Alabama's and Ohio State's of the world. We have to score and we have to do it EVERY possession. We can afford a screw-up here and there, but never within the 5. Our lack of scoring is more problematic than a porous defense because you can't win a game with 0 points.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Our fan base needs to learn to critique defense like we do offense. 2013 was a good year to critique offense... poor line, poor receivers, poor QBing, poor play calling, lots of turnovers and few points. We are having a lot of success on offense this year... just not good enough to bail out the bad defense.
    I agree with this.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux Dawgs View Post
    Our defense killed us. We can not tackle or cover anyone.
    Not sure Tech's D game plan is to cover receivers as much as it is to cover an area. Most times, it's hard to tell when you can't see the D backfield on TV when the QB goes back to pass.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    Just to play devil's advocate. Let's assume Holtz didn't throw the ball after the lead was 27-7. Same outcome... 38-34 loss. Is anyone bitching that Holtz went conservative, "turtled-up" and didn't have killer instinct? What if we had 300 yards passing in the 1st half and 60 in the 2nd half because Holtz tried to run the clock out with a run game that wasn't working? I think that would be a great case against play-calling.
    Truth.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    Through 1/3rd of the season only 15 FBS QBs have thrown more TD passes than Ryan Higgins has (and he didn't play the first game of the year). Looking over the passing stats nationally I see nobody with a better TD:INT ratio than Ryan's 10:2 performance. He started "in the hole" at 4:2, but in these last two road games has gone 6:0. His stats through his first three games are better than Cody Sokol's or Jeff Driskel's at the same point in their final season at Tech.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    We have to score and we have to do it EVERY possession.
    That's just ridiculous. No, we DO NOT have to score every possession if our DC is worth anything at all. There are three parts to a team, O, D and ST. The D needs to do their part.

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Our lack of scoring is more problematic than a porous defense because you can't win a game with 0 points.
    Again, ridiculous. Most of Tech's D stats are ranked in the 100's, nationally. IT IS ALL ON THE DEFENSE and more specifically, the DC and his coaches.

    And, yeah, Tech scored 34, not zero.

    btw, Still love your Holtz train gif but, at this point, Holtz is still very good for Tech's program.

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    Re: How bad was Skip's play calling in the 2nd half against the MUTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    ...Our lack of scoring is more problematic than a porous defense because you can't win a game with 0 points.
    In the most recent 2 games, I wouldn't say we had a problem with "lack of scoring." Because of the porous defense, we couldn't win games with 45 or 34 points, respectively.

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