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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Probably couldve killed 2 more minutes if we had a successful punt, and forced them to drive.
    Our defense was bad but the kicking and coverage last night did them no favors with field position.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by THEarmada View Post
    Then find a happy medium.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Last night we scored 35 points in the first half. We only scored 20 in the second half (only 3 of those in the 4th quarter).

    WKU couldn't do anything to stop us in the first half. Between penalties and unoriginal play-calling, they stopped us quite a bit in the second half (comparatively). My question is this, does our "milk the clock" (these are Holtz words) offense lead to the sort of slow down we saw last night as well as the implosion we saw against MTSU?

    Some cars don't drive well unless you push them. I think our offense is like that. Higgins plays better and so does everyone around him when we have the pedal down.

    Anybody else notice this?
    Yep.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    He took the gas off too soon. Eat the clock but make it a smaller meal.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Yeppers! The slow down offense when we get the big lead takes us "out of rhythm" totally.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    I dont so much notice a slo-down, per say, but it seems to me when we get later in the game, most often with a somewhat comfy lead, the play-calling changes. We deviate from what's been working and what has gotten us a lead to some bizarre off-the-wall play calling.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by ITdrummer View Post
    I dont so much notice a slo-down, per say, but it seems to me when we get later in the game, most often with a somewhat comfy lead, the play-calling changes. We deviate from what's been working and what has gotten us a lead to some bizarre off-the-wall play calling.

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    One thing we know for sure is that it's not due to lack of strength and conditioning.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Last night we scored 35 points in the first half. We only scored 20 in the second half (only 3 of those in the 4th quarter).

    WKU couldn't do anything to stop us in the first half. Between penalties and unoriginal play-calling, they stopped us quite a bit in the second half (comparatively). My question is this, does our "milk the clock" (these are Holtz words) offense lead to the sort of slow down we saw last night as well as the implosion we saw against MTSU?

    Some cars don't drive well unless you push them. I think our offense is like that. Higgins plays better and so does everyone around him when we have the pedal down.

    Anybody else notice this?
    We didn't milk the clock against MTSU until the fourth quarter, and we did so very successfully. Had we done more running in the second and third the game would have never been in doubt IMO

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    I bet if you re-watch the game, you'll see that it was more penalties on offense that killed us rather than pace. The Craft tripping, the Trent Taylor chop block call. The whole line chop blocking a couple of times.... that's what was killing our offense late in the game. It's not apparent that pace caused those penalties. I would say a couple of those calls were bogus.

    But yes, they say you like to get the QB in a rhythm and when the rhythm is stopped, the offense theoretically suffers. The lack of a short running game when you need a yard on 3rd in 1 and can't get a push hurts too. It might be time to abandon the T formation, everyone knows what's coming now.
    Really nice to beat the defending conference champs and Ken Antee, the defending something else. I hope he had a sleepless night wondering how he could have done more.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    I bet if you re-watch the game, you'll see that it was more penalties on offense that killed us rather than pace. The Craft tripping, the Trent Taylor chop block call. The whole line chop blocking a couple of times.... that's what was killing our offense late in the game. It's not apparent that pace caused those penalties. I would say a couple of those calls were bogus.

    But yes, they say you like to get the QB in a rhythm and when the rhythm is stopped, the offense theoretically suffers. The lack of a short running game when you need a yard on 3rd in 1 and can't get a push hurts too. It might be time to abandon the T formation, everyone knows what's coming now.

    Because it didn't work once? Generally, it has been very effective

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    [/B]Because it didn't work once? Generally, it has been very effective
    I'd have to rewatch, but the only time I remember it working was on the pass play for a TD to Craft on the goalline. It seemed like WKU was putting 11 men on the LOS and stuffing us for, at best, no gain.. at worst -3 yards. They are pretty stout on the DL though.... may be premature to abandon completely. It wasn't going to work last night though.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    I'd have to rewatch, but the only time I remember it working was on the pass play for a TD to Craft on the goalline. It seemed like WKU was putting 11 men on the LOS and stuffing us for, at best, no gain.. at worst -3 yards. They are pretty stout on the DL though.... may be premature to abandon completely. It wasn't going to work last night though.
    I should have been clearer. I meant once, as in game. Otherwise, it has been very effective as I remember (but memory is not what it once was).

    Is there a way to rewatch the game on line that you know of?

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    I should have been clearer. I meant once, as in game. Otherwise, it has been very effective as I remember (but memory is not what it once was).

    Is there a way to rewatch the game on line that you know of?
    True, it probably depends on the defensive talent of the opposition. It just seems that WKU had it sniffed out and dominated it and I don't understand why every team from here out wouldn't do the same. I don't think it's available to rewatch... I DVR'd it.

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    Re: Is play-calling making our offense sputter when we have a big lead?

    I'd rather they run the Big Bone back field vs. the Dead "T". In the bone you can go 3 different directions. In the "T" we have only run left or right. That is one thing I miss from TF's offense. Same principle plus TF would always leave a receiver wide on both sides. It creates one on one outside with a single high safety. Just more options. But a win is a win!

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