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    China Planning to Strike the US

    No, I don't think they would be so stupid. But it should open some eyes that China is refining a plan to hit the US...like a Pearl Harbor sneak attack. Why? Sure, all nations draw up plans of defense, and how to respond to an attack, with a counter-attack. But what would compel a nation to plan an unprovoked military attack?

    In years past Chinese leaders have commented they could suffer hundreds of millions of casualties and still have more people than any other country, including the US. If China lost 350 million people they would still have 700 million in population. If we lost that number, we would cease to exist.

    I think this is all just bluster by the Chicoms because Trump is kicking their ass. They think if they allow the "news" of their planning an offensive military strike to "slip out" it will scare us into backing off our economic policies which have hit the Chicoms hard. A lot harder than they will admit. But the economic news is clear, and China has slipped out of the Top 5 in world economies and are falling fast.

    Still….lest we forget our history....it was economics that motivated Japan to attack us in 1941. We had virtually cut off Japan's access to the oil resources in Indonesia and a few other places, and we had cracked down on Japan's illegal trade practices. None of that would have harmed Japan's economy in any way, if they simply behaved as a world citizen. But it did hamper their military buildup and threatened their ability to carry out offensive military operations in China and elsewhere. In other words, Japan did not need so much oil for their civilian economy to function. They needed it because they planned to put a huge naval fleet at sea and carry out imperialistic military operations.

    Well....hello China 2018. Trump's tough trade policies do nothing to hamper normal, peaceful economic activity in China. If anything, they would improve China's economy by "forcing" them to adopt more efficient non-commie policies. But, the Chicoms are not interested in being a peaceful citizen of Earth, and get along. Nope. They have expansion plans. The Chicoms, by their own admission, are in their 30th year of a 100-year plan to dominate the world. To accomplish that they know they will have defeat the US, and our closest allies, militarily.

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    The timing is right. Trump is a weak leader and is compromised by scandal and lack of trustworthiness. He has weakened our Alliances by signaling a lack of commitment to their defense and criticism of their leadership. He has retreated from American commitments and has eroded American softpower. Meanwhile he has signaled an unpredictability in American aggression that is giving our enemies even more international support. This is what happens when America retreats and leaves a power vacuum.

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    Goosey, a Chicom spy asked for a specific target, to sight in their nukes...so I gave him your address. As a loyal American I wanted to keep them from hitting important targets. You are more than just expendable. You are an enemy of our great nation.

    But, you might want to alert your neighbors....there is a lot of collateral damage with nukes.

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Goosey, a Chicom spy asked for a specific target, to sight in their nukes...so I gave him your address. As a loyal American I wanted to keep them from hitting important targets. You are more than just expendable. You are an enemy of our great nation.

    But, you might want to alert your neighbors....there is a lot of collateral damage with nukes.
    No need for a nuke. I think a dung beetle could roll him away easily

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

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    No, I don't think they would be so stupid. But it should open some eyes that China is refining a plan to hit the US...like a Pearl Harbor sneak attack. Why? Sure, all nations draw up plans of defense, and how to respond to an attack, with a counter-attack. But what would compel a nation to plan an unprovoked military attack?
    No country, not even China is equipped to deal with an attack from the USA. The USA has troops all around the world in hundreds and hundreds of bases. The US has several bases surrounding China. China is confined to its own country. They have some presence in the South China Sea as they are building naval bases there against UN protocol and they have one international military base in Djibouti if I remember correctly. They do not have the ability to both attack the US and defend from a US attack on its country.


    In years past Chinese leaders have commented they could suffer hundreds of millions of casualties and still have more people than any other country, including the US. If China lost 350 million people they would still have 700 million in population. If we lost that number, we would cease to exist.
    Without going into nuclear warfare, it would be hard to lose that many people. The other thing to take into consideration is the population density of China. They are extremely concentrated in cities in the eastern half of the country. The US population is very spread out and suburbanized. An attack to decimate China's population would be much easier as they are so concentrated.



    Still….lest we forget our history....it was economics that motivated Japan to attack us in 1941. We had virtually cut off Japan's access to the oil resources in Indonesia and a few other places, and we had cracked down on Japan's illegal trade practices. None of that would have harmed Japan's economy in any way, if they simply behaved as a world citizen. But it did hamper their military buildup and threatened their ability to carry out offensive military operations in China and elsewhere. In other words, Japan did not need so much oil for their civilian economy to function. They needed it because they planned to put a huge naval fleet at sea and carry out imperialistic military operations.
    And I'm sure China learned from Japan's mistake. Japan didn't even attack the biggest military at the time. China would know not to attack the strongest military to ever exist. We don't have to worry about an attack from China.



    Well....hello China 2018. Trump's tough trade policies do nothing to hamper normal, peaceful economic activity in China. If anything, they would improve China's economy by "forcing" them to adopt more efficient non-commie policies.
    This isn't China from the 60's. China is far from communist. If anything, they could be argued to have a more laissez-faire approach to their economy in some aspects than the US right now.


    But, the Chicoms are not interested in being a peaceful citizen of Earth, and get along. Nope. They have expansion plans. The Chicoms, by their own admission, are in their 30th year of a 100-year plan to dominate the world. To accomplish that they know they will have defeat the US, and our closest allies, militarily.
    Look at what they are doing in Eastern Europe, Sub-Saharan Africa and southern Asia. They are using these areas to become economically powerful in the area and to develop "soft power" over these areas. It's a different approach than challenging the US through military means at least not globally in the mean time. The one area to keep watch of is the South China Sea. They are definitely intending to grab and control this area through its military.

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    They are only in the 30th year of a 100-year plan. So, no, they ain't ready yet. Watch out in 2088 though! In my very first sentence I stated I don't think they would be so stupid..

    The point is, according to Army intelligence, they are developing a plan for a pre-emptive strike for now, not 70 years from now. Why? Do we (the US) develop such plans for an unprovoked attack on other nations? Not! for a specific target/reason....like a strike on NOKO's nukes, or Iran's nuke factories...but just in general, to decimate some other country, including their civilian population and domestic centers. We have reasons to dislike Cuba and Venezuela, so, do we have some pre-emptive plan to strike them and to invade those countries, with the intent of occupying them? That's included in China's plans for their attack on us. I would say, no, we don't.

    I just found the report curious, and posted it to generate some discussion on our relationship with China. Not that I'm going to my bomb shelter and restocking it for a pending attack.

    And, yes, China, thanks in large part to the positive influences of Hong Kong, Taiwan, and others like Singapore, has adopted some practical domestic economic policies of free market capitalism BECAUSE IT WORKS!!!

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    Yes, the Pentagon has definitely drawn up plans to attack and occupy, if not specific countries, then each region of the world. They definitely have battle plans to attack and occupy many specific countries like Cuba and Ven., both provoked and unprovoked. If they didn't, then they wouldn't be doing their jobs. Planning the logistics of even a minor military exercise is a massive undertaking. They do NOT want to start ANY engagement from a ground zero planning stage.

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
    Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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    his tells me that China is not ready for a real fight and is just trying to intimidate the U.S. while they built up and catch up on technology.


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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    Quote Originally Posted by DJDAWG View Post
    “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
    Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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    his tells me that China is not ready for a real fight and is just trying to intimidate the U.S. while they built up and catch up on technology.

    But what about double deception? They know we know about the Art of War and expect deception.

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    Maybe, in the future. At this point in time, our tech and naval and air and satellite advantage would crush them. We could just park our subs and carriers in the Pacific and just cripple their infrastructure. Our bombers can reach them from anywhere in the world. They simply can't touch us, at this time.

    But, if we keep allowing them to steal tech and give them ICBM tech (thank you Bill Clinton), then our advantages will quickly dissipate.

    One area that is of REAL concern is China's monopoly in Rare Earth elements. Our modern military can not exist without them but the U.S. produces literally none of them. Why? Environmentalists and the EPA have shut all of our mines down. Thank goodness President Trump is hard at work to reverse this stupidity. Along with bringing the manufacturing of steel and aluminum back into the U.S. These are VITAL war materials.

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    Re: China Planning to Strike the US

    Quote Originally Posted by DJDAWG View Post
    Maybe, in the future. At this point in time, our tech and naval and air and satellite advantage would crush them. We could just park our subs and carriers in the Pacific and just cripple their infrastructure. Our bombers can reach them from anywhere in the world. They simply can't touch us, at this time.

    But, if we keep allowing them to steal tech and give them ICBM tech (thank you Bill Clinton), then our advantages will quickly dissipate.

    One area that is of REAL concern is China's monopoly in Rare Earth elements. Our modern military can not exist without them but the U.S. produces literally none of them. Why? Environmentalists and the EPA have shut all of our mines down. Thank goodness President Trump is hard at work to reverse this stupidity. Along with bringing the manufacturing of steel and aluminum back into the U.S. These are VITAL war materials.
    The Dems/Socialist/their Deep State/One World Government politicos in America and folks like Soros, Putin , the new Pope and the radical islamist and have all been trying their best to bring America down to level the playing field. Trump, the most powerful president and defender of America in our lifetime other than Regan, and true conservatives won't let that happen.

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