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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    He has already proven how wrong he is for this moment.


    Obama was wrong for the swine flu, but when he just stopped counting the positive tests and deaths caused by it the numbers drop. We'll never know how many were actually infected and died.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Obama was wrong for the swine flu, but when he just stopped counting the positive tests and deaths caused by it the numbers drop. We'll never know how many were actually infected and died.
    It is funny how that became your new story as soon as COVID deaths blew ten times by the Swine Flu death total? Remember at the beginning of all this when you were saying it wasn’t as bad as Swine Flu? Where do you get these crazy arguments?

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    Re: President Trump

    Person woman man camera TV.

    You get extra points if you can say them in order.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It is funny how that became your new story as soon as COVID deaths blew ten times by the Swine Flu death total? Remember at the beginning of all this when you were saying it wasn’t as bad as Swine Flu? Where do you get these crazy arguments?
    Are you denying that Obama stopped counting? We will NEVER know how many actually died from the swine flue.

    Remember at the beginning of China Virus when you believed the models saying over 2 million could die in the USA?

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    Re: President Trump

    I have read several articles on the Mexican Flu of 2009-10 (aka Swine Flu), and 18,500 appears to be the most accurate estimate of the deaths. 61 million Americans got it, including me. It was pretty rough, 102F fever and I actually missed 3 days of work.

    Hopefully, medical science/government(s) will come clean on the death toll of this China Virus too...some day. Perhaps after it no longer serves a political purpose, we'll get the truth.

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    Re: President Trump

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    Person woman man camera TV."

    Will someone please tell me what this means?)

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by stodgdog View Post
    "
    Person woman man camera TV."

    Will someone please tell me what this means?)
    It was in the cognitive test Trump took. He mentioned it in an interview. I think you had to memorize the words and their sequence.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Are you denying that Obama stopped counting? We will NEVER know how many actually died from the swine flue.

    Remember at the beginning of China Virus when you believed the models saying over 2 million could die in the USA?
    What was the reason that Obama stopped counting? You know we don’t count cases for any flu, right?

    For my own analysis, I am not even looking at COVID case counts. That is not a useful stat to track, particularly at this time when it is everywhere.

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    Re: President Trump

    Did any of you see the speech POTUS gave yesterday and if so did you hear his remarks about lowering drug prices? He stated that he was making some very wealthy people very angry and that we may may not see much of him for a while. I know Trump is prone to offhanded comments but this one seemed especially odd. I've always felt Trump has enemies on both sides that want to keep the status quo. He seems to be intent on doing some things even at his own peril.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by GonzoDawg View Post
    Did any of you see the speech POTUS gave yesterday and if so did you hear his remarks about lowering drug prices? He stated that he was making some very wealthy people very angry and that we may may not see much of him for a while. I know Trump is prone to offhanded comments but this one seemed especially odd. I've always felt Trump has enemies on both sides that want to keep the status quo. He seems to be intent on doing some things even at his own peril.
    History will be a lot kinder to Trump than the current popular, twisted views of him. It would surprise a lot of people to know that Lincoln was despised by a lot of folks...and I don't mean just Southerners. Many northerners hated him! Many in power, influential people, like newspaper editors and state political leaders despised him, roundly bashed him for his policies. In the 1860 election Lincoln only got 39.8% of the popular vote, and his poll numbers dropped after that, especially during the first three years of his war of Northern Aggression. Too many northern boys coming home in coffins, and for what!? History paints a different picture of him because we have the luxury of 20-20 hindsight and can see the BIG PICTURE.

    Trump IS a great POTUS. Those of us who don't have our head up someone's ass, see that. His detractors fall into one of two categories, 1) the commie bastards who want to destroy America, and 2) the truly ignorant who simply don't know any better. History will show what a great American he is, and what a great job he is doing (did) for this country and the free world.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    What was the reason that Obama stopped counting? You know we don’t count cases for any flu, right?

    For my own analysis, I am not even looking at COVID case counts. That is not a useful stat to track, particularly at this time when it is everywhere.
    He stopped counting deaths from the flu. You know he did.

    The stats are the same that they have been from day one...sick and old people are the ones dying. That's part of life.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    He stopped counting deaths from the flu. You know he did.

    The stats are the same that they have been from day one...sick and old people are the ones dying. That's part of life.
    You didn’t answer the questions.

    Deaths from swine flu and COVID in the US are worlds apart. Ditto on hospitalizations.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    History will be a lot kinder to Trump than the current popular, twisted views of him. It would surprise a lot of people to know that Lincoln was despised by a lot of folks...and I don't mean just Southerners. Many northerners hated him! Many in power, influential people, like newspaper editors and state political leaders despised him, roundly bashed him for his policies. In the 1860 election Lincoln only got 39.8% of the popular vote, and his poll numbers dropped after that, especially during the first three years of his war of Northern Aggression. Too many northern boys coming home in coffins, and for what!? History paints a different picture of him because we have the luxury of 20-20 hindsight and can see the BIG PICTURE.

    Trump IS a great POTUS. Those of us who don't have our head up someone's ass, see that. His detractors fall into one of two categories, 1) the commie bastards who want to destroy America, and 2) the truly ignorant who simply don't know any better. History will show what a great American he is, and what a great job he is doing (did) for this country and the free world.
    3) Those of us that are genuinely concerned about his ham-fisted, inconsistent, and potentially permanently damaging foreign policy decisions. He’s weakened our alliances, and weakened the Republic globally.

    I voted for the guy once.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You didn’t answer the questions.

    Deaths from swine flu and COVID in the US are worlds apart. Ditto on hospitalizations.
    They stopped counting deaths from swine flu.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    They stopped counting deaths from swine flu.

    That works both ways. The way flu deaths of any variety are always calculated is using reverse looking data analytics. That produces a range - in the case of the swine flu, somewhere between 8k and 18k deaths that are likely attributable to swine flu in the US.

    For COVID, we are reporting lab confirmed COVID deaths, which results in an undercount.

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