I can only speak for myself. I don’t make or accept excuses for dishonesty whether it is Clinton or Trump. Now what do you say for yourself? Why do you accept or excuse Trump’s dishonesty?Originally Posted by techman05
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I can only speak for myself. I don’t make or accept excuses for dishonesty whether it is Clinton or Trump. Now what do you say for yourself? Why do you accept or excuse Trump’s dishonesty?
So you finally agree that Hillary was not worthy of support?
I don't find Trump any more dishonest than Obama. Trump just doesn't have the benefit of a sycophantic press covering for him. Yes, Trump is less than 100% truthful at times, but which presidential candidate (or president) has not been? The two that were closest to being that way (Ted Cruz and Mitt Romney) were soundly defeated at the ballot box.
On the other hand, Trump is a guy that is doing what he said he would do when he ran for the office, making him MORE honest than all the others in this regard. And like it or not, what he is doing seems to be working as unemployment continues to tick down, the economy is getting stronger, and strangely enough his foreign policy is reaping dividends. What I like about him the most is that he has exposed Republicans for their unwillingness to actually govern, and even they are starting to do what they were sent there to do. If not for the dishonesty and evil policies of the dems pushing a socialist agenda and dividing the country with identity politics, and the inability of the republican party to stop them, Trump would never have happened.
Or....maybe it was all because of some youtube video....
Show me a 100% honest politician and I’ll show you my pet unicorn. I’m not excusing anyone lying, I just question the double standard. If an honest person runs for office, I bet dollars to donuts they aren’t elected.
Trump is close to zero percent honest. Over 3000 lies since taking office.
THIS is TDS at it's worst. I have looked at Trump's "lies", and they are mostly pompous embellishments born of overstating stuff to try and prove a point. Kinda like saying...well..."Trump is close to zero percent honest". You are calling out Trump for something you do when calling him out! Priceless.
Sounds like you are the one suffering from TDS. How many of the 3000 do you consider actual lies?
Was Trump POTUS during the affair?
Very few.
Trump talks like a real estate guy, because he had a real job before becoming president as a real estate guy. Just like I knew Obama would work to create "villains" and divide the country by race, issue, economic status and play the hero to each group. It's because that's what "community organizers" do.
Ever bought a house? "Needs TLC", "lots of potential" and a "Handyman special" usually mean the house is on the verge of getting condemned. It's kind of like an auto sales person with the "air blows cold" pitch.
Trump is also from New York, which means he is prone to saying stuff like "best of all time" and "greatest ever" off the cuff, much like Chuck Schumer with his crying spells in front of any camera he could find to show something as the "worst ever".
There has never been, and will likely never be, a more non-partisan president in the oval office. Trump is open to whatever is brought to him, and in doing so has suffered the wrath of both major parties who flourished under the status quo. If any of this was agenda driven, he could be easily swayed to one side or the other because he is about making "the best, most super colossal deal ever that will never be done ever again and it will be HUGE and beautiful and etc.". This resistance movement is born out of jealousy and hate, and the desire to return to the times when virtually nothing was expected of elected officials and issues were largely solved via finger pointing and nothing more.
I was afraid the dems would use this to advance their agenda, but I am thinking they really don't have an agenda except to obtain and hold power. DACA obviously wasn't that important to them in hindsight.
All that matters come November.
APRIL UNEMPLOYMENT 3.9%...
Black, Hispanic unemployment rates hit record lows...
TRUMP APPROVAL 51%...
Trump is prone to superlatives. It's part of his personality, and the fact he's very much a Type A. He doesn't mind tooting his own horn, which is another trait of highly successful people. They are self promoters. He's also too honest for his own good, insomuch as he often expresses his thoughts out loud. He's not very tactful. But lies? Nothing of any significance....yet. I honestly don't remember what he said of gun rights/gun control during the campaign. I thought he was pretty much pro-2nd Amendment. But, his willingness to make concessions to the loonies is not what I expected. Ditto on the DACA thing and his upping the ante. But, was it a lie? Maybe, although I don't recall him stating anything to the contrary.
Mostly Trump is delivering on his campaign promises, which is another reason The Swamp is so anti-Trump. What politician ever kept his campaign promises?
What a difference a great President makes. Obama was totally worthless and didn't care for the average American if it didn't fit his PC agenda. IMHO. And Trump fulfills his promises.
3 Americans detained in North Korea 'in good health' and on way back to US with Pompeo, Trump says
Three Americans detained in North Korea "seem to be in good health" and are on their way back to the United States, President Trump announced in a Wednesday tweet.
NKOREA RELEASES AMERICAN PRISONERS
TRUMP TO GREET AT 2AM ARRIVAL
Good news.
You do realize that Clinton, Bush and Obama also secured prisoner releases from NK. And, contrary to the lies told by Trump, 2 of these 3 prisoners were detained during Trump’s presidency.
And Trump got them released with his expert negotiating skills and strategies. The N.Korea dictator doesn't want to be snuffed in the night by our awesome military and is and will continue to deal with Trump unlike Obama, Bush's, Clinton's.
If he didn’t deal with Obama, Bush and Clinton, how did they secure prisoner releases? Or does prisoner releases not indicate an ability to negotiate? Which is it?
Well, let's look at the facts. Obama, Bush and Clinton followed the strategy of strategic patience and appeasement to deal with the threat of North Korea. They gave them stuff (food, money, etc.), which the NK regime converted into building a military and nuke arsenal.
Trump has NOT done these things. As far as I can tell, he has promised North Korea nothing, except maybe a future without his foot on their throat. He is not rewarding bad actions with goodies they can free up to further threaten us.
If I go into a dealership to purchase a vehicle and you do the same, and you offer $5,000 over MSRP and I get a decent discount off of the price, do you consider our negotiation skills equal because we both left with a car?
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