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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Conservative outrage with MSM really speaks to an underlying entitlement mentality.

    They really think that private-sector media companies "owe" them more right-leaning news.
    Not at all.

    The part that bothers me is the indoctrination process that leans so far left. I can even deal with that, but many/most parents now are lazy and allow their kids to watch and read unfiltered crap. Saying that, I have great hope for the future based on what I see in in Christian circles.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The part that bothers me is the indoctrination process that leans so far left.
    I dont guess you'd be willing to consider the possibility that maybe reality is, in fact, liberal?

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I dont guess you'd be willing to consider the possibility that maybe reality is, in fact, liberal?
    I consider all things within reason. I have a pretty firm grasp on reality. Politics aside, the church has been commanded how to and what to do. It's really pretty simple.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    "Competing with ideas"? That's what the RINOs have been doing since Reagan. Until Rush and Fox News there was ZERO conservative voice.

    You have the same definition of conservatism as the RINOs.

    Trump is taking a bigger bite back from the Socialist than they are willing to give up. Almost 30 years of conservative destruction by the Bush clan, Clinton, and Obama are being taken back by Trump. That's a good thing, but you see it as bad.
    You call everyone not on the Trump Train a RINO or a liberal, so the term has no true meaning. I've articulated my view of conservatism quite a few times.

    If you're not competing with ideas, what are you planning to compete with? Don't you see that Obama was a reaction and Trump is the reaction to Obama. It will continue as long as the only goal is winning apart from values. No progress for either side.

    The GOP has no long term plan...neither does the left. No one makes arguments anymore, they just buy propaganda spots.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I consider all things within reason. I have a pretty firm grasp on reality. Politics aside, the church has been commanded how to and what to do. It's really pretty simple.
    Agreed.

    Amazing how reasonable people can begin with the same premise, yet arrive at different conclusions.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post

    The GOP has no long term plan...neither does the left. No one makes arguments anymore, they just buy propaganda spots.
    You don't think Trump has a plan? He is actually trying to do EVERYTHING he campaigned on. Not the usual propaganda the RINOs have been running on in hope of not being booted out of the swamp. The argument for the last two years has been "if Trump is for it, we are against it". Trump actually makes an argument for fair trade, jobs,lower taxes, the wall, and most all things hated by the left leaning swamp.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    You don't think Trump has a plan?
    Trump does not equal the GOP. I think he has a plan and I think it looks nothing like promoting conservative ideals for the future. It's power and popularity (that's what it's always been for Trump...you know that).

    The GOP is just riding the wave. They were more liberal when that got them the W and they were more conservative when that worked. On this, I think, you and I agree.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Trump does not equal the GOP. I think he has a plan and I think it looks nothing like promoting conservative ideals for the future. It's power and popularity (that's what it's always been for Trump...you know that).

    The GOP is just riding the wave. They were more liberal when that got them the W and they were more conservative when that worked. On this, I think, you and I agree.
    I and most other true conservatives like that Trump is not the GOP. I don't believe that it is all about power and popularity with him, but that is the common theme with the never Trumpers.

    When is the last time the GOP was conservative? It has been almost 30 years. The GOP ran weak candidates in Dole, McCain, and Romney. None of them were conservative with a conservative message. Voters got tired of it when the GOP served up more RINOs like Kasish, Rubio, and Bush with the true conservatives (Cruz) being ignored. Trump literally pooped in their punch bowl and it is WONDERFUL!

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    Re: President Trump

    Regarding RINOs (and DINOs) …

    Yall do realize that "Republican" and "Democrat" are, in fact, only names, right?

    That's like saying I'm Champ967 in name only. Yeah, because it's a name.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I don't believe that it is all about power and popularity with him, but that is the common theme with the never Trumpers.
    Or with anyone who’s is even vaguely familiar with Trump’s history.

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    Re: President Trump

    I should clarify that I think MOST politicians are about power and popularity. Trump positions himself as the anti-politician, but that's a trait he shares with most career politicians.
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    I should clarify that I think MOST politicians are about power and popularity. Trump positions himself as the anti-politician, but that's a trait he shares with most career politicians.
    Agreed.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Trump literally pooped in their punch bowl and it is WONDERFUL!
    This is entirely possible, given his personality and, um, other hang-ups, but even so I hope not.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Also interesting that two of the House Republicans that first threw their support behind Trump, Collins and Hunter, are now under federal indictment. Never understood the expression “thick as thieves” until now. All of these guys are crooks.
    Little bitch of a man Duncan Hunter is now blaming his wife for the campaign fund misuse after first blaming his crimes on political-motivated witch hunting. The Trumpification of the Republican Party is disgusting. Whatever happened to honor?

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