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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    For those of you keeping count, our President is now an unindicted co-conspirator in two federal crimes.

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    Re: President Trump

    I count things that aren't imaginary and things that really matter, like the two supreme court justices (and soon to be three once Ginsburg retires or croaks) that he's appointed that will effect the law of the land for the next two decades. President Trump will completely change the direction of this nation through his SCOTUS appointments during his two terms in office.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Macron had to do some things he new would be unpopular to put France’s economy on stable footing it is very ironic that you are more concerned with his failing popularity rather than his attempt to unravel France’s welfare state which is what has made him unpopular. Many have called the guy France’s Ronald Reagan. Macron, unlike Trump, is decidedly not populist. He is conservative. Unlike Trump the job is not about stroking his own ego - rather it is about doing what needs to be done regardless of how unpopular it makes him.

    https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.co...n-save-france/

    Mr. Macron aims to rebalance the economy by cutting 120,000 public sector jobs, streamlining the pension system and dropping state spending back to 52 percent of G.D.P. Mr. Macron leads an emerging centrist consensus that recognizes that…the main obstacle retarding France’s economy is its attachment to a welfare state culture of…generous benefits. …Mr. Macron…once said that stifling taxes threaten to turn France into “Cuba without the sun”.

    Indeed, in addition to the reforms listed in the Macron has proposed to lower France’s corporate tax rate to 25 percent, and he also want to liberalize labor markets.

    All of which seems rather surreal. After all, Macron was a minister in the failed socialist government of Francois Hollande, so who would have thought that we would be the one to lead an effort to shrink the burden of government?

    Yet consider the fiscal agenda President Macron is pushing.

    France’s 2018 budget will focus on cutting taxes to boost economic activity as the government seeks to cement its support among the business community, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said. …Philippe told RTL Radio on Wednesday he wants to lower levies that “hurt the competitiveness of our country.” Government ministries this week received letters setting out their spending limits for 2018. President Emmanuel Macron is seeking cuts of 20 billion euros ($23 billion) and tax reductions of 11 billion euros next year… “We have to get out of the spiral of public spending,” government spokesman Christophe Castaner said in a separate interview on France Inter. “France has been addicted to ever increasing spending, paid for by taxes.”
    Well then...if all of this true...good job Macron!

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    For those of you keeping count, our President is now an unindicted co-conspirator in two federal crimes.
    I'm reading a book on the "ambition" of key folks on both sides of the American Revolution. The primary focus is on George Washington and Benedict Arnold. But, there is a large cast of characters, American and British, loyalists (Tories), and revolutionists. It's a fascinating read. One character, you would love, goosey, is an attorney...a slimy attorney (that's redundant)...one Joseph Reed of Pennsylvania. He was Robert Mueller before there was a Robert Mueller. I have no doubt that a book written 200 years from now will properly cast Mueller as the same self-serving piece of chit Reed was.

    Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Case in point.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Well then...if all of this true...good job Macron!
    It is true. We would be lucky to have a leader like Macron.

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    Re: President Trump

    I have noticed that you folks who were about “locking her up” aren’t saying the same thing when your guy is the one that committed the crimes. What has changed?

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I have noticed that you folks who were about “locking her up” aren’t saying the same thing when your guy is the one that committed the crimes. What has changed?
    Trump has not committed any crimes....well, I'm sure he's probably jaywalked or maybe has driven over the speed limit at some time in his life, I have! But other than that, nah. Krooked Killary violated tons of laws. Big difference.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It is true. We would be lucky to have a leader like Macron.
    Why don’t you move to France? Then you’ll be lucky.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    It is true. We would be lucky to have a leader like Macron.
    So you are nothing more than a hard core socialist.
    We already knew this about you on BB&B.

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    Re: President Trump

    On Benedict Arnold....

    I have a different view of Arnold, now that I've been reading that book about him, and others at the time. No, Arnold was not without his faults/guilt, but he was really driven to switch sides due to the actions of Joseph Reed. One Continental Congressman, who appreciated Arnold as a general, came to his aid by writing a letter on his behalf to the president of the Congress, Henry Laurens, detailing the unfair/unwarranted investigations pending against him. In that letter, the Congressman used the expression "it's a witch hunt."

    In the Spring of 1779, the war, the American Revolution was a stalemate. At that point, General George Washington was 2-6 in major engagements. He had his two brilliant victories at Trenton and at Princeton....and 6 humiliating defeats on the battlefield. General Benedict Arnold was a perfect 4-0, with the most significant being the Battle of Saratoga. Thus, overall we were 6-6 and had fought the powerful British to a standstill. As many historians say, had Arnold died that day at Saratoga, instead of surviving his horrific wound (leg), he'd be remembered as one of the greatest generals in American history! A year after Saratoga even Arnold recognized that and in a letter to a confidant, he wrote "only bad luck kept me alive to endure what I must these days. Far better had I expired that day."

    Alas, that old lure of riches and power and celebrity status drove Benedict Arnold beyond his means.

    The incident that best sums up Arnold's post-Saratoga troubles was the taking of two merchant ships....and the tons, and tons, and tons of critical supplies, wares, chests of silver, medicines, and the like. Two armed American merchant ships, the Active and the Charming Nancy, sat in the river below Philadelphia, trapped by the British Navy blockading the harbor, and a small British fort between the ships and the city. The British had abandoned Philly but took and/or destroyed critical supplies, like food, fresh water, and medicines. Even though he was great pain, still recovering from his wound, and the 3 surgeries he had to endure, General Arnold told the leaders of the city that he would secure the supplies from those ships. He had 50 wagons assembled, and took with him only 20 American soldiers, plus the teamsters who drove the wagons. Arnold approached the isolated British fort, with its 100 defenders, and the battery of heavy cannons covering the river. Under a white flag Arnold met the British commander to discuss terms. He said it was in the best interest of the British to abandon the fort, and if they did, Arnold would assure safe passage for the garrison to return to their own lines. The British commander looked past Arnold and counted, "You have but 20 soldiers, why should I fear an attack?" Arnold replied, "Do you really think I would have come here with only 20 soldiers?" The Brit replied, "No, I don't suppose you would have." And then agreed to the terms.

    Brilliant ruse. General Arnold's reputation, by then well known to the Brits, allowed him to bluff his way to a victory, without firing a shot.

    Okay, great, right! Yeah....except Arnold now saw an opportunity to make a buck. Together with a couple of lawyer friends, and a wealthy merchant, Arnold seized the two vessels and took from them all those goods. They then sold the supplies at HUGE mark-ups to the people of Philadelphia. There are more details how they pulled this off, but the gist of it is, Arnold justified his actions because of his mounting personal debt, and to having to pay those same lawyers to defend him against the attacks of Joseph Reed. THIS is where, and how, Benedict Arnold departs from his previous path of being a true American hero, to ending up known as the biggest traitor in American history.

    British general Howe's Chief of Staff, Lord Sterile (something like that), wrote of Joseph Reed's "witch hunts," He [Reed] is doing us a great service....by prosecuting General Arnold, and others, he is forcing "the fence sitters" to take sides and he drives them straight into our camp.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    On Benedict Arnold....

    I have a different view of Arnold, now that I've been reading that book about him, and others at the time. No, Arnold was not without his faults/guilt, but he was really driven to switch sides due to the actions of Joseph Reed. One Continental Congressman, who appreciated Arnold as a general, came to his aid by writing a letter on his behalf to the president of the Congress, Henry Laurens, detailing the unfair/unwarranted investigations pending against him. In that letter, the Congressman used the expression "it's a witch hunt."

    In the Spring of 1779, the war, the American Revolution was a stalemate. At that point, General George Washington was 2-6 in major engagements. He had his two brilliant victories at Trenton and at Princeton....and 6 humiliating defeats on the battlefield. General Benedict Arnold was a perfect 4-0, with the most significant being the Battle of Saratoga. Thus, overall we were 6-6 and had fought the powerful British to a standstill. As many historians say, had Arnold died that day at Saratoga, instead of surviving his horrific wound (leg), he'd be remembered as one of the greatest generals in American history! A year after Saratoga even Arnold recognized that and in a letter to a confidant, he wrote "only bad luck kept me alive to endure what I must these days. Far better had I expired that day."

    Alas, that old lure of riches and power and celebrity status drove Benedict Arnold beyond his means.

    The incident that best sums up Arnold's post-Saratoga troubles was the taking of two merchant ships....and the tons, and tons, and tons of critical supplies, wares, chests of silver, medicines, and the like. Two armed American merchant ships, the Active and the Charming Nancy, sat in the river below Philadelphia, trapped by the British Navy blockading the harbor, and a small British fort between the ships and the city. The British had abandoned Philly but took and/or destroyed critical supplies, like food, fresh water, and medicines. Even though he was great pain, still recovering from his wound, and the 3 surgeries he had to endure, General Arnold told the leaders of the city that he would secure the supplies from those ships. He had 50 wagons assembled, and took with him only 20 American soldiers, plus the teamsters who drove the wagons. Arnold approached the isolated British fort, with its 100 defenders, and the battery of heavy cannons covering the river. Under a white flag Arnold met the British commander to discuss terms. He said it was in the best interest of the British to abandon the fort, and if they did, Arnold would assure safe passage for the garrison to return to their own lines. The British commander looked past Arnold and counted, "You have but 20 soldiers, why should I fear an attack?" Arnold replied, "Do you really think I would have come here with only 20 soldiers?" The Brit replied, "No, I don't suppose you would have." And then agreed to the terms.

    Brilliant ruse. General Arnold's reputation, by then well known to the Brits, allowed him to bluff his way to a victory, without firing a shot.

    Okay, great, right! Yeah....except Arnold now saw an opportunity to make a buck. Together with a couple of lawyer friends, and a wealthy merchant, Arnold seized the two vessels and took from them all those goods. They then sold the supplies at HUGE mark-ups to the people of Philadelphia. There are more details how they pulled this off, but the gist of it is, Arnold justified his actions because of his mounting personal debt, and to having to pay those same lawyers to defend him against the attacks of Joseph Reed. THIS is where, and how, Benedict Arnold departs from his previous path of being a true American hero, to ending up known as the biggest traitor in American history.

    British general Howe's Chief of Staff, Lord Sterile (something like that), wrote of Joseph Reed's "witch hunts," He [Reed] is doing us a great service....by prosecuting General Arnold, and others, he is forcing "the fence sitters" to take sides and he drives them straight into our camp.
    If you have a chance watch the series TURN: Washington's Spies, there is a lot about Arnold in that series as well.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by GonzoDawg View Post
    If you have a chance watch the series TURN: Washington's Spies, there is a lot about Arnold in that series as well.
    Is it still on Netflix?

    I watched the first season it was on regular TV, but lost interest, mostly, after that. I did watch some more episodes. I'd rather read history, and not be disappointed by the inevitable poetic license producers take when making movies or TV series.

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    Re: President Trump

    Benedict Arnold's civil trial and court-martial...

    Arnold decided to act as his own attorney. First because as a narcissist, and he was, he thought no one could do better, and secondly because he had come to despise attorneys. Joseph Reed and his merry band of "witch hunters" thought they had Arnold nailed. One of the attorneys who had plotted with Arnold to seize the supplies from those ships and sell them for huge profits, had gotten cold feet, and was afraid the plot would be discovered in its details. Two merchants had been hung, in a public hanging, by Reed and his cohorts with scant evidence of any wrong doing. Actually, it was later learned the two merchants were innocent, to which Reed shrugged it off, saying "it will still serve as a warning." So, this attorney, went to Reed and confessed to the plot, "turning state's evidence" in exchange for a guarantee he would not be prosecuted. Reed wanted Arnold most of all, so he agreed.

    But, just hours before the trial was to begin, a friend learned of this and warned Arnold. Making his opening statement, Arnold admitted to the plot. He justified it by saying, the people of Philadelphia needed those supplies, the medicines, and many hundreds would have soon died if not for HIM [Benedict Arnold] taking action. One of the 3-judge panel's own daughter was one needing that medicine. Arnold looked that judge square in the eyes and asked, "Do you regret paying a fee to save your daughter?" He continued, "Who else but me could have pulled that off?" He reminded the panel he had secured the supplies, and captured a British fort without firing a shot. Arnold then pointed at that attorney, now seated next to Joseph Reed, and said, the only reason I agreed to sell those supplies was to feed the trough of those said to be defending me against false charges. Oh, he might now say something differently, to protect himself, but I assure you, it will all be lies!

    With that opening statement Arnold rendered Reed's case ineffective. It worked too. Arnold was found not guilt of all charges, except the "misappropriation of government property for personal use" (the 50 wagons, the teamsters, and the 20 soldiers). He was ordered to pay a small fine to reimburse the government for it. Typical Benedict Arnold though, instead of simply accepting his victory in court, he was incensed about the fine. He wrote his wife, "I did nothing wrong, and I am made to suffer the public humiliation of paying a fine, like a common criminal."

    General George Washington had rebuffed numerous communications from Arnold, asking him to intervene on his behalf. Washington wrote Arnold a letter, about a month before the trial. In it he emphasized that Arnold was facing a civil court, on charges brought by a duly elected body "The Pennsylvania Executive Council" and that it would be inappropriate for he, General Washington, to use his influence as a military leader to usurp the rule of law. But he expressed confidence that Arnold would beat the charges "on the merits of the case." On the military aspect, the court-martial, Washington said he would use all his influence possible, short of ordering the panel to rule a certain way. "the integrity of the process" must prevail, Washington wrote.

    After the trial Washington wrote a letter of congratulations to Arnold, with one reprimand. Washington expressed extreme dissatisfaction with Arnold profiting personally from the seizure of the supplies. "We are charged to serve the people" he wrote. "You have tarnished the image of the Continental Army as a prominent officer, so admired and so respected by so many." But, Washington needed Arnold! General Benedict Arnold was a fighter, and a brilliant commander. Washington confided in a close advisor, "General Arnold is ten times the battlefield commander that I am."

    Washington then, to smooth things over, offered Arnold "whatever post, whatever position in the army you aspire to." Benedict Arnold knew which post he wanted....commander of the largest and most important fort, and military installation, America held: West Point, New York.

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    Re: President Trump

    Nice! Please keep posting "the rest of the story".

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