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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I understand how subsidies work. I also understand how the insurance works. You tell me how the insurance is subsidized. I know where you are trying to go here. It's NOT a subsidy. It's a mandate.
    "Under the Federal Crop Insurance Program’s unique public-private partnership, there are currently 15 private companies authorized by the United States Department of Agriculture Risk Management Agency (USDA RMA) to write MPCI policies. The service delivery side of the program — writing and reinsuring the policies, marketing, adjusting and processing claims, training and record-keeping, etc. — is handled by each private company. The program is overseen and regulated by the Risk Management Agency (RMA). The RMA sets the rates that can be charged and determines which crops can be insured in different parts of the country. The private companies are obligated to sell insurance to every eligible farmer who requests it and retains a large portion of the risk on over 80 percent of the policies written.
    The federal government also subsidizes the farmer-paid premiums to reduce the cost to farmers. In addition, it provides reimbursement to the private insurance companies to offset operating and administrative costs that would otherwise be paid by farmers as part of their premium. Through this federal support, crop insurance remains affordable to a majority of America’s farmers and ranchers."
    https://cropinsuranceinamerica.org/about-crop-insurance/how-it-works/

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Insurance claims of ANY flavor are not income.
    they are if the premium being charged is insufficient to cover the risk.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    No " the point" is to bash Trump with lies and propaganda. You are all in the middle of the Trump haters an have been since he beat up on your RINO favorites.

    Insurance claims of ANY flavor are not income. You conveniently forget the rules of capitalism (insurance and law of large numbers) when they don't apply to your agenda.
    It’s not a lie just because it blows the “Trump is conservative” narrative. The links speak for themselves. Not my fault if you can’t handle the truth.
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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasbob View Post


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    t took 3 minutes of research.
    It didn't take three minutes of research for me. I understand how crop insurance works. If it was as easy as you claim, everybody would be farming. Crop insurance is not a subsidy. The premiums are not due on the RMA products on the front end. Most farmers elect to "buy up" in order to protect their total investment each year.

    Quote Originally Posted by arkansasbob View Post
    they are if the premium being charged is insufficient to cover the risk.
    That's not the way it is and not the way insurance in general works unless you are a democrat touting Obamacare.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    It’s not a lie just because it blows the “Trump is conservative” narrative. The links speak for themselves. Not my fault if you can’t handle the truth.
    Sorry your side is getting their brains beat out by a non RINO conservative.

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    Re: President Trump

    The subsidized insurance income is still only about half of the direct government handout.

    http://m.startribune.com/more-than-a...ent/564525932/
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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Sorry your side is getting their brains beat out by a non RINO conservative.
    When you’ve lost the argument, you’ve got to throw crap against the wall. This particular fling ain’t sticking.
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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    The subsidized insurance income is still only about half of the direct government handout.

    http://m.startribune.com/more-than-a...ent/564525932/
    The insurance it the only thing I've addressed so far. I stated that some other things on the list are misleading too.

    How do your people at Bloomburg feel about Trump's treatment of his relationship with Israel? Too tough on trade? Killing NAFTA was a bad mistake? They mostly agree with RINOS and Socialist Dems who "just want to get along" by giving more and more to the left.

    Trump gave away the farm when he agreed to the stupid pre ex clause. As long as he keeps building the fence, holding our "allies" accountable, and spending on defense we will all be better for it.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The insurance it the only thing I've addressed so far. I stated that some other things on the list are misleading too.

    How do your people at Bloomburg feel about Trump's treatment of his relationship with Israel? Too tough on trade? Killing NAFTA was a bad mistake? They mostly agree with RINOS and Socialist Dems who "just want to get along" by giving more and more to the left.

    Trump gave away the farm when he agreed to the stupid pre ex clause. As long as he keeps building the fence, holding our "allies" accountable, and spending on defense we will all be better for it.
    Subject change noted.

    I don’t have people at Bloomberg, so I can’t speak for them.

    Trump’s Israel posturing is fine, but it’s not conservative, it’s an outgrowth if dispensational Theology, not conservative thought.

    Most true conservatives are free traders, so they recognize that Trump’s trade policies are more aligned with Bernie and AOC than they are with conservatism.

    Killing NAFTA and replacing it with something worse was, well, Trumpian.

    You’re lecturing me on insurance when your guy is the pre-ex king!

    But yeah, I’m the one who’s betraying capitalism!

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post

    But yeah, I’m the one who’s betraying capitalism!
    Capitalism? Not really unless you consider investment in other countries in the name of free trade a good thing.

    The market is not complaining about the "Trumpian trade policies". His handling of China is long overdue. Your RINOS would have just kept giving more and taking less until they and China owned everything.

    Is Bloomburg upset about him rolling back the Obama mandates that killed O&G? The appointment of more and more conservative federal judges along with more to be named on the Supreme Court?

    BTW, your democrat governor is taking full advantage of all those who believed his lies.

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    Re: President Trump

    He’s your governor too. So much better than that Trump brownnose that the state GOP ran...a crony capitalist Jindal guy!

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    This guy is part of the SBC problem. They are about to implode because so many pretenders are involved in "proper Christianity" teachings. Not what the Bible teaches, but what they feel is right.

    Open border are good!

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    This guy is part of the SBC problem. They are about to implode because so many pretenders are involved in "proper Christianity" teachings. Not what the Bible teaches, but what they feel is right.

    Open border are good!
    Fake news. The SBC isn’t going anywhere. A vocal hyper-minority is trying to make support of Trump a litmus test and they will fail.

    Peculiar that you think calling Christians to be consistent in their treatment of Trump and Clinton is not what the Bible teaches.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Fake news. The SBC isn’t going anywhere. A vocal hyper-minority is trying to make support of Trump a litmus test and they will fail.

    Peculiar that you think calling Christians to be consistent in their treatment of Trump and Clinton is not what the Bible teaches.
    None of what you said here is what I said and you know it.

    The SBC may not be going anywhere, but it will adjust when the money stops coming in.

    Trump and Clinton on the same page...ridiculous, but a desperation comparison that is not surprising for a Trump hater and a Clinton empathy guy.

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