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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    For what crime?
    Treason, in both the Benghazi case and the unlawful handling of classified documents.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    You don't need "intent" to prove that somebody committed a crime.
    Yes, you do. Intent is an element of every crime that is punishable by jail time. It's a constitution thing.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    Treason, in both the Benghazi case and the unlawful handling of classified documents.
    Yeah, that is not treason under the law.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    I read a very liberal newspaper every day, The Arkansas Democrat -Gazette.
    That is not liberal. In fact, it scores right of center.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/arkan...ocrat-gazette/

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Yes, you do. Intent is an element of every crime that is punishable by jail time. It's a constitution thing.
    You can find a lot of people in prison that say that had no intent of committing a crime. Do you believe the Clintons are above the laws that apply to everyday folks?

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    That is not liberal. In fact, it scores right of center.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/arkan...ocrat-gazette/
    Do you read it every day like I do? You seem obsessed with having everybody think the same way as you. Do you have a job? You seem to be posting on this board 24/7. I don't have time for that and I'm retired and definitely didn't have time when I worked. .

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    Treason, in both the Benghazi case and the unlawful handling of classified documents.
    Better check the definition of treason.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Yes, you do. Intent is an element of every crime that is punishable by jail time. It's a constitution thing.
    Things like the elements of a crime are really beyond the comprehension of a Trumper.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Yeah, that is not treason under the law.
    What do you call it when you share classified information with every other country? I call it treason. Maybe we could call her a deserter for the Benghazi crime. She was definitely no where to be found while the Embassy was under attack for 13 hours and 4 Americans were killed.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    You can find a lot of people in prison that say that had no intent of committing a crime. Do you believe the Clintons are above the laws that apply to everyday folks?
    Intent has to be proven by the state. If you are in jail, then it was. Lots of people in jail claim they are innocent. Do you believe different laws should apply to the Clintons?

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Sad that you would believe a hostile intelligence over your own. That is about as unAmerican as it gets.

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
    The real hostile intelligence comes from politicians with (D) after their names and their Deep State operatives.

    Prove Assange wrong. Until then, stuff it.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    What do you call it when you share classified information with every other country? I call it treason. Maybe we could call her a deserter for the Benghazi crime. She was definitely no where to be found while the Embassy was under attack for 13 hours and 4 Americans were killed.
    Yeah, it might be bad and have political repercussions, but that doesn't make it a crime under the law. Apparently the FBI didn't have evidence that tended to show that she knew she was supplying classified information to a foreign power with the intent of benefitting the foreign power. Thus, no violation of the law. For what it is worth, Comey did help the republicans out by publicly declaring that what Clinton did was irresponsible and reckless.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    What do you call it when you share classified information with every other country? I call it treason. Maybe we could call her a deserter for the Benghazi crime. She was definitely no where to be found while the Embassy was under attack for 13 hours and 4 Americans were killed.
    I'm not aware that Hillary could have done anything to save those people who died at the Consulate. The Ambassador was warned not to go. Hillary did not have any direct control over the CIA assets in the area. What exactly did you want her to do?

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    The real hostile intelligence comes from politicians with (D) after their names. Prove Assange wrong. Until then, stuff it.
    Our IC proved Assange wrong. I take it that you were unwilling to read their unclassified report.

    Prove our IC wrong. Until then, you stuff it.

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    Re: President Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Yeah, it might be bad and have political repercussions, but that doesn't make it a crime under the law. Apparently the FBI didn't have evidence that tended to show that she knew she was supplying classified information to a foreign power with the intent of benefitting the foreign power. Thus, no violation of the law.
    Funny that you do not apply this standard to all the "alleged" Trump stories. Asking Comey to go easy on Flint is not a crime because there was no "or else" involved with the request (if the request even happened). Colluding with the Russias isn't even a crime. Giving Russia a piece of classified intelligence is not against the law, because the president can declassify stuff. If you don't see this entire exercise is just an attempt to stop Trump from implementing his agenda and ruin his presidency, you have been reading too much fake news.

    I have no doubts that Obama colluded with the Muslim Brotherhood (no proof, but that doesn't seem to matter any more), and that he conspired against Netanyahu (an ally) in Israel, and made secret deals with Iran that were in direct opposition of US interests, but i suppose technically no laws were violated.

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