11/25: @ Southern Miss (Rivalry In Dixie)

[DogsWin]

We are performing increasingly worse vs our biggest competitor in CUSA West.

2013 Tech 36 - USM 13 (+23 point win)
2014 Tech 31 - USM 20 (+11 point win)
2015 Tech 24 - USM 58 (-34 point loss)
2016 Tech 24 - USM 39 (-15 point loss)

[Blue Dawg]

On the bright side, we held them to fewer points. I rule that a net gain.

[maverick]

We are performing increasingly worse vs our biggest competitor in CUSA West.

2013 Tech 36 - USM 13 (+23 point win)
2014 Tech 31 - USM 20 (+11 point win)
2015 Tech 24 - USM 58 (-34 point loss)
2016 Tech 24 - USM 39 (-15 point loss)

Actually, following your reasoning, the trend is reversing.

[Dogsince65]

2013 4-8
2014 9-5
2015 9-4
2016 8-4 so far

back to back bowl wins --
CUSA 23-10 under Holtz 20-5 CUSA last 3 yrs
1 point loss to Arkansas beat Illinois in Bowl games my personal favorites were embarrassing ULL and destroying Arkansas state

Put 7 guys in pros from last year and that absolutely takes talent and COACHING.

For 50 year fans like me these are glory days again-- 3 straight bowls and divisional title..... yeah-- I was upset Saturday nite but takes a lot more than that to ruin season for me

[Dogsince65]

Please snap out of this thinking - we are in a very weak conference that can't even get money for TV anymore. We won't get to the next level if we keep thinking like this.
Skip Holtz hasn't won us any important game yet. He and his team choked every single time.

be sure to tell that to Illinois-- WK twice - . you are actually ridiculing the history of Tech football by ridiculing conference-- we were beating schools over last 50 years that no longer play football. WAC is gone and it seems like yesterday BBB was rejoicing to be in CUSA. My thinking since I joined BBB has been consistent-- we need money--- we got posters whining about a 15$ ticket--- my thinking is simple, support the program with what you can. I have doubled my contributions to Tech academically and LTAC. buy extra season tickets for football-baseball-basketball . Never miss a game (50 yrs). Proud to have a TAG scholarship dedicated in my name. SO tell me what part of my thinking needs to change??

[Dogsince65]

If they were that hurt, especially Higgins, he shouldn't have been in there in the second half especially. I know they are competitors and want to play, but at some point the coach has to say thanks son, but you are hurting the teaming, let J'Mar get out there and move the offense.

makes sense to me ...

[Dogsince65]

Lets not overpay to keep Holtz here. Anything over 750,000 can not be justified at this point.

this is not attack on your post-- just some additional info-- Coach has been very active in fundraising. He has been constantly traveling to raise money for program .. word I get is he has passed on personal raises to pay assistant coaches. USA today posts average coast of a win in college football and we are always around 55K which is very low cost. His 500k from Florida running out this year and its kind of embarrassing to have ULL paying lousy coach a million and we are bottom of CUSA list for coach pay. 1 million is a lot but in terms of a head coach at a respectable program it is starting point

[parisdog]

Higgins isn't Bradshaw

Everyone got boat raced - from Skip down to the ball boy

No excuse for the lack of effort displayed Friday afternoon in Hattiesburg

USM's black uniforms intimidated the team.

[JuBru]

SO tell me what part of my thinking needs to change??

Not be so damn giddy over beating Sunbelt and other shitty teams. Not be so nostalgic when we need to keep progressing. Realize the majority of our fanbase and population of North Louisiana are not in your economic situation. Realize that Tech sucks up to you and other important people, but not the casual or otherwise loyal fan. That Tech is nowhere close to being an elite in anything yet Tech and too many others pretend we are an exclusive elite club and that this is all their personal playground.

I'm sure there's more. Those are the main points right now.

[revf]

Before the season started, I saw us at 7-5 (I didn't think we would beat WKU the first time... )

So 8-4, playing in the C-USA championship, and maybe headed to 8-5 is pretty good.

We are going to a bowl for the third year in a row.

Here is the thing. Coach Holtz is a decent recruiter, a solid spokesperson, and a good fundraiser. Hell, he might be the nicest most personable coach we have ever had. He is a program builder, and I love that. Our facilities are better than they have been in years.

He will win the games he is supposed to win every year. If the stars are perfectly aligned, the other team makes a mistakes or is injured, and someone makes a crucial kick we might win a game or two we weren't supposed to win.

That being said. I don't see us getting to double digit wins. I don't see us regularly beating P5 teams. So we will be consistently 7-5, 8-4, and sometimes 9-3

It's also why I don't see another P5 school "hiring him away". They don't want a program builder, they want a winner who is going to get you double digit wins every year.

[T1]

Keep in mind this is his first team with a full allotment of scholarship players too. 2013 was an FCS team as far as scholarships go. 2014 was a championship game. 2015 was 1 game from another championship game. 2016 is back to championship. 2017 team is stacked for years to come. The "next step" begins next year, imo.

[70TECHGRAD]

I think more people are upset with Skip than Higgins - he didn't have it and after second INT should of been pulled and sat down for a series or two

Every Tech fan I know was DISGUSTED over the way the team played Saturday considering what was on the line

If you are going to TALK THE TALK you have got to WALK THE WALK - they came out with their tails between their legs

And THAT is the truth.....it hurts, but sometimes, the truth hurts!!!

[70TECHGRAD]

Keep in mind this is his first team with a full allotment of scholarship players too. 2013 was an FCS team as far as scholarships go. 2014 was a championship game. 2015 was 1 game from another championship game. 2016 is back to championship. 2017 team is stacked for years to come. The "next step" begins next year, imo.

And...S. Miss has a LOT of jucos that are graduating this year.

[T1]

And...S. Miss has a LOT of jucos that are graduating this year.

They are like Tech though... they are going to get the players. Look for some battles from here on out. (glad Mullens is gone though!!)

[Dixonfor6]

Before the season started, I saw us at 7-5 (I didn't think we would beat WKU the first time... )

So 8-4, playing in the C-USA championship, and maybe headed to 8-5 is pretty good.

We are going to a bowl for the third year in a row.

Here is the thing. Coach Holtz is a decent recruiter, a solid spokesperson, and a good fundraiser. Hell, he might be the nicest most personable coach we have ever had. He is a program builder, and I love that. Our facilities are better than they have been in years.

He will win the games he is supposed to win every year. If the stars are perfectly aligned, the other team makes a mistakes or is injured, and someone makes a crucial kick we might win a game or two we weren't supposed to win.

That being said. I don't see us getting to double digit wins. I don't see us regularly beating P5 teams. So we will be consistently 7-5, 8-4, and sometimes 9-3

It's also why I don't see another P5 school "hiring him away". They don't want a program builder, they want a winner who is going to get you double digit wins every year.

So we have a hudspeth