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    Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools


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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    Just to clarify. I believe that many of the Big 12 Presidents want to move now before the Big 10 inevitably expands. But I don't think Big 12 expansion - if it's just 2 - includes Houston. Eventually, the Longhorn Network will become the Big 12 Network. They will need new markets.
    I wrote this in another thread in December. It's become apparent in recent months that the Big 12 was going to either expand or die as we know it. The only way for schools to get out of the Grant of Rights that were signed in 2010 was if the conference lost 5 or more schools and the league simply died from a legal standpoint. Scenarios were emerging that would send Missouri and Kansas to the Big 10, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and TCU to the SEC, and West Virginia and one other school to the ACC, possibly UConn. That would kill the Big 12.

    While Texas has been against expansion, none of the rumors involving other leagues included the Longhorns. The only other landing spot for Texas would be the Pac 12. If the Pac 12 said they had no interest, Texas would be left in the Big 12 with Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, and Baylor and then having to rebuild the league.

    That scenario might have just prompted a change of heart from the Longhorns, who have opposed expansion.

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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    The question now is what does the Big 10 do if Kansas - a school they really want - is in a league that's stable with a new Grant of Rights.

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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    The bigger question is how many teams does the AAC lose and then how many does CUSA lose, and do we have any shot at being one of them? Probably not, imo.

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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    The more schools pulled out of the AAC the better for us. I actually would feel comfortable at 3.

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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    The more schools pulled out of the AAC the better for us. I actually would feel comfortable at 3.
    I think 4 teams leaving the AAC would be good for LA Tech, especially if SMU and Tulane are still in the AAC.
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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    The only thing that would "save/improve" the BigXII is to transform the Longhorn Network. If that were to happen they would not need to expand.
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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    The only thing that would "save/improve" the BigXII is to transform the Longhorn Network. If that were to happen they would not need to expand.
    See my previous post in this thread. They have to expand to keep the league from falling apart. They could go from 10 schools to 5 schools, at which time the Grant of Rights signed in 2010 would be null and void.

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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    Tell me about the TV contract in the Grant of Rights?
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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    I know I could go do the research, but would somebody mind giving a real short explanation of what the grant of rights is/does?
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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    I know I could go do the research, but would somebody mind giving a real short explanation of what the grant of rights is/does?

    Until 2024-25
    Here's a quick explanation of the grant of rights:
    ... if a Big 12 school leaves for another league in the next 13 years, that school's media rights, including revenue, would remain with the Big 12 and not its new conference.


    Apparently 5 is the magic number that nullifies the TV deal.

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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    So the Cajuns are in?��
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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post

    Until 2024-25
    Here's a quick explanation of the grant of rights:
    ... if a Big 12 school leaves for another league in the next 13 years, that school's media rights, including revenue, would remain with the Big 12 and not its new conference.


    Apparently 5 is the magic number that nullifies the TV deal.

    Sounds like a litigator's dream.
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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    The Big 12’s television consultants put forth a compelling presentation in Dallas on Tuesday. They showed how four new teams combined with the addition of a conference championship game could add nearly one billion additional dollars before the league’s deal with ESPN and Fox expires in 2025.


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaa...ansmsnsports11

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    Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools

    If I had to guess, I would say the B12 takes Cincy and Houston and then AAC takes USM and Rice. CUSA then either stays at 12 or raids the Sun Belt again. Not a pretty scenario for us.

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