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    What does true tolerance look like?

    Not looking for a definition. What do you perceive absolute tolerance to look like in action in the political arena? To follow that up, is it good for America?

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    We have to balance tolerance of ideas with morality. Having an opinion is unbound by human law, but acting on it is certainly constrained by law, which is based in the morality of the lawmaker.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    Tolerance is such a moving target. The definition depends on skin color, sex, sexual orientation, political views, religion, etc..

    White, heterosexual, conservative, southern, Christian, males have a much higher expectation of tolerance than say a black, gay, liberal, democrat, athiest from San Francisco.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    Good points. I would like to know what a liberal sees as the conservative view of tolerance. As a conservative, I see liberals teaching tolerance as the acceptance of all races, religions, creeds, and colors as long as you all agree with us.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...eral tolerance

    liberal tolerance
    The belief that is doesn't matter what race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation a person is, as long as they never, ever disagree with you, and as long as that religion isn't Christianity.
    Johnny got called a "stupid bible-thumping Christian sheeple" during a seminar on liberal tolerance, after saying that he didn't have a problem with seeing the Ten Commandments on display in a public courthouse.




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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    I can't tolerate tolerance. Won't have it!


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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    I guess there aren't any left wingers who can tolerate my request for their interpretation of right wingers view on tolerance.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    Good points. I would like to know what a liberal sees as the conservative view of tolerance. As a conservative, I see liberals teaching tolerance as the acceptance of all races, religions, creeds, and colors as long as you all agree with us.
    Tolerance is a precursor to political correctness. Through politics, our Tolerance has been twisted, bankrupted and ultimately hijacked by liberals into meanings of non judgmentalism, recognition, acceptance, even implicitly, affirmation and respect.

    Tolerance is about putting up with views and opinions that you deeply disagree with. It does NOT require abdicating judgement, only the firm belief that somewhere in the debate there is the best chance of finding truth. This "finding truth" part is one of the keystones that liberals have a problem with.

    We live in a world populated by liars, cheaters, thieves, hypocrites, scammers and con artists. Consequently, full tolerance is likely never achievable by those with high morals and values that run counter to many of those they are expected to "tolerate". The good news is, good conservatives know how to distinguish between Tolerance and Acceptance. Most Llberals don't. That's the difference.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    I guess there aren't any left wingers who can tolerate my request for their interpretation of right wingers view on tolerance.
    They also shut down when you ask them about the merits of Obamacare.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    They also shut down when you ask them about the merits of Obamacare.

    I know one merit. It is retractable. It will be difficult, but it is doable.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    My major issue is not tolerance. I am now required to accept and praise dissenting views. Not accept that views are different or praise the ability and right to disagree. I am being asked to just go with what someone else says without opposition. Pretty sure that is called censorship.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    My major issue is not tolerance. I am now required to accept and praise dissenting views. Not accept that views are different or praise the ability and right to disagree. I am being asked to just go with what someone else says without opposition. Pretty sure that is called censorship.
    I think suppression (of dissent) is more accurate, though censorship is a part of suppression.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by techman05 View Post
    My major issue is not tolerance. I am now required to accept and praise dissenting views. Not accept that views are different or praise the ability and right to disagree. I am being asked to just go with what someone else says without opposition. Pretty sure that is called censorship.
    This is in that neighborhood called "intolerance." The whole struggle comes from the erosion of trust in an absolute truth. If there are more than one "concept" of what is "true," you get mired in the bog of intolerance. Those who accept one source of truth are the ones who must practice tolerance. All others will never accept anyone else's contrary "truth."
    Those who have found the true-truth should have the accompanying confidence to "put up" with those ignorant of it. They also understand the purpose of existence. However, they are not required to agree with others, but to put up with them. Truth, real truth should never be compromised, and we should hold on to what is best for all = real truth.

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    Re: What does true tolerance look like?

    I know this type of discussion ultimately takes a religious turn, but it obviously must. After all, the one true "truth" we point to is the reality of who Jesus was and what he did. The original source for purpose and morality is the Bible. We are studying Apologetics in my lifegroup. Anyone who has not seen it should watch Lennox vs Hawkins.

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