Rupp Part 2

[nadB]

Oh yeah he landed Magnum as a transfer and he was a pretty good player. I also forgot about James Loe, stud PG that we had one year and only won about 6 games.

We have one senior on this year's team that is playing meaningful minutes. One.

Except for injury, we'd have two.

[HogDawg]

It is still early in the season. The C-UAB is only sending one team to the dance. Everyone knew going into this season the only way we are playing in the tournament is winning the C-UAB, so our season begins Jan. 1.

That's what I've been telling all you guys. Nov and Dec basketball sucks. Young teams like ours are still trying to "find thier identity". I know it sounds cleche, but it's true.

[RhythmDawg]

Except for injury, we'd have two.

depends on if by "meaningful" you are referring to quality or quantity.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Last night was the first night we struggled with turnovers at home - it appears Jean is having problems adapting to his new role

Boykins is a shooter and has a chance to have a special year

Bracey is 10 games into his freshman year is going to be real good already has 56 assists and only 14 turnovers (even taking into the last two games were he struggled...)

Joniah is getting his legs under him finally and effects more shots than most realize and is assuming the role of the team leader

Cut the turnovers in half and we win that game by 30

Harris has a chance to be special - first true scorer since Henderson and he put the game away last night and he is a freshman

We run good offensive sets - they were sloppy possessing the ball last night - that happens

The USL game didn't bother me (didn't expect to win down there, could have been beat by 30 but they fought back and came damn close to pulling it out) - I firmly believe that if Cree doesn't have the turn-over in the last minute after we cut it to 3 we win - no TECH head coach has consistently won in Lafayette, if that game is in Ruston we win by double digits (some of y'all might want to re-check White's record against the Cajuns)

This team will win 22-24 games and we a have a very talented roster for the long haul

[BruceWillisDawg]

We are currently 6-4. Will win next 2/3 and head into conference 8-5. Don't see this team winning but 50-60% of conference games. So I don't see us getting to 20 wins. Perhaps 18-19. No consistent identity on offense and still very young off the bench. Didn't see last nights game but the games I have watched I thought we were very average offensively but improving defensively. We will need to really generate some offense from turnovers, much like under the MW era if we are going to push to be at the top of the conference.

[Dwayne From Minden]

We are currently 6-4. Will win next 2/3 and head into conference 8-5. Don't see this team winning but 50-60% of conference games. So I don't see us getting to 20 wins. Perhaps 18-19. No consistent identity on offense and still very young off the bench. Didn't see last nights game but the games I have watched I thought we were very average offensively but improving defensively. We will need to really generate some offense from turnovers, much like under the MW era if we are going to push to be at the top of the conference.

You do realize that based on Sagarin we are #2 in the conference right now?

This team is more talented than White's first or 2nd year teams and plays in a MUCH weaker conference overall

[DJDAWG]

Last night was the first night we struggled with turnovers at home - it appears Jean is having problems adapting to his new role

Boykins is a shooter and has a chance to have a special year

Bracey is 10 games into his freshman year is going to be real good already has 56 assists and only 14 turnovers (even taking into the last two games were he struggled...)

Joniah is getting his legs under him finally and effects more shots than most realize and is assuming the role of the team leader

Cut the turnovers in half and we win that game by 30

Harris has a chance to be special - first true scorer since Henderson and he put the game away last night and he is a freshman

We run good offensive sets - they were sloppy possessing the ball last night - that happens

The USL game didn't bother me (didn't expect to win down there, could have been beat by 30 but they fought back and came damn close to pulling it out) - I firmly believe that if Cree doesn't have the turn-over in the last minute after we cut it to 3 we win - no TECH head coach has consistently won in Lafayette, if that game is in Ruston we win by double digits (some of y'all might want to re-check White's record against the Cajuns)

This team will win 22-24 games and we a have a very talented roster for the long haul

Man, I love reading your basketball thoughts. Please keep this up.

I'm not very basketball literate and have a hard time understanding the plays they are running and the strategies they are using, even while I'm watching it.

So, all you basketball nuts, more Tech basketball reviews and technical talk, please!

[Dwayne From Minden]

Basketball is a different animal than football -

It's SO HARD to win on the road against ANYONE -

We were down 20 pts at the 10 min mark in the first half and there is a good argument we should of won the ballgame if McCree doesn't have the huge turnover at the end

I watch a TON of basketball from the high school and college level every year and to compare Konkol right now to Rupp is laughable (Rupp should of never been hired, regardless of what Karl wanted) -

Are we world beaters? NO

Are we as bad as some want to suggest? NO WAY

Much like Skip - Konkol has recruited very well on the high school level, with a VERY HIGH level of talent

[TrueBulldog1962]

Basketball is a different animal than football -

It's SO HARD to win on the road against ANYONE -

We were down 20 pts at the 10 min mark in the first half and there is a good argument we should of won the ballgame if McCree doesn't have the huge turnover at the end

I watch a TON of basketball from the high school and college level every year and to compare Konkol right now to Rupp is laughable (Rupp should of never been hired, regardless of what Karl wanted) -

Are we world beaters? NO

Are we as bad as some want to suggest? NO WAY

Much like Skip - Konkol has recruited very well on the high school level, with a VERY HIGH level of talent

Not to mention two of the kids coming in next year Amorie Archibald and Exavian Christon are averaging 25 and 28 points per game this year. Konkol is really bringing in some impressive talent. The future of our program is extremely bright.

[Dawg06]

You do realize that based on Sagarin we are #2 in the conference right now?

This team is more talented than White's first or 2nd year teams and plays in a MUCH weaker conference overall

Here's how our conference strength stacks up over the last 6 years.

All 4 of White's teams played in a tougher conference than Konkol.

Year Conference (Coach)	KP Conf Rating
2011-12 WAC (White)	+0.64
2012-13 WAC (White)	-0.32
2014-15 C-USA (White)	-1.52
2013-14 C-USA (White)	-1.58
2016-17 C-USA (Konkol)	*-2.02
2015-16 C-USA (Konkol)	-4.13

[Dawg06]

But since we can't play ourselves and we play unbalanced conference schedules, we should probably look at Tech's conference SOS to judge the strength of the conference slates we actually played.

Year Conference (Coach)	LT Conf SOS
2011-12 WAC (White)	+0.47
2012-13 WAC (White)	-2.17
2014-15 C-USA (White)	-2.80
2013-14 C-USA (White)	-3.84
2016-17 C-USA (Konkol)	TBD
2015-16 C-USA (Konkol)	-7.49

Again, Konkol's conference slate is much weaker than White's. We don't know this year's conference SOS, but it should be stronger than last year but still weaker than White's weakest slate.

[Cool Hand Clyde]

PD hates Holtz and D06 hates Konkol. Does anybody hate Stanley???

[TrueBulldog1962]

PD hates Holtz and D06 hates Konkol. Does anybody hate Stanley???

Add in nadB, he hates Konkol as well.

[nadB]

But since we can't play ourselves and we play unbalanced conference schedules, we should probably look at Tech's conference SOS to judge the strength of the conference slates we actually played.

Year Conference (Coach)	LT Conf SOS
2011-12 WAC (White)	+0.47
2012-13 WAC (White)	-2.17
2014-15 C-USA (White)	-2.80
2013-14 C-USA (White)	-3.84
2016-17 C-USA (Konkol)	TBD
2015-16 C-USA (Konkol)	-7.49

Again, Konkol's conference slate is much weaker than White's. We don't know this year's conference SOS, but it should be stronger than last year but still weaker than White's weakest slate.

Here's the second year bar Konkol needs to jump over: 27 wins; co-conference championship; NIT

Add in nadB, he hates Konkol as well.

I'm not a hater.

Well, I do hate playing swac ball and sucky home game attendance.

[Dawg06]

PD hates Holtz and D06 hates Konkol. Does anybody hate Stanley???

I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. I was simply posting data supporting DFM's assertion that we are playing in a much weaker conference now than during the White era. That data suggested nothing about my opinion of Konkol.