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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    Butch Davis FIU - due to the job requirements

    Doc Holliday @ Marshall

    or if he hadn't left Strohm at WKU

    Skip should be top 4 or 5 but not #1

    Plus &00k in Ruston LA is different than it is Denton, Boca or at ODU
    Brohm?

    What about Lane Kiffin?

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixonfor6 View Post
    Brohm?

    What about Lane Kiffin?
    Yes can't see well this morning - B's & S's and $'S & 8"s are giving me problems

    Kiffin is a train wreck and I just don't think he will be successful - FAU should of hired Davis first, FIU is a much tougher gig to win at
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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by DJDAWG View Post
    Not disagreeing, but who should be?
    Regardless of all the other factors, Skip's pay is a function of our budget.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    It's hard to argue that Skip doesn't deserve a pay raise for putting together the most successful 3-year run since we moved to Division I. He ranked #104 of 119 reported to USA Today last year in base salary (and assuredly behind the nine other private-school coaches whose salaries weren't reported). I'm not against bonuses or incentives, but the base salary needs to be increased. Bumping his base salary up to around $800K would get us near the top 80 in the country and much more in line with the rest of the Conference USA coaches.
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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by olddog75 View Post
    Regardless of all the other factors, Skip's pay is a function of our budget.
    No worries. I'm sure all of those posters pushing for a raise in base pay will be glad to step up and fund the increase.

    I agree with D80, make the increases incentive based.

    P5 wins, conference championship, bowl win, Access bowl, and academics.

    Assistant coach incentives based on how well their respective groups do.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    It's hard to argue that Skip doesn't deserve a pay raise for putting together the most successful 3-year run since we moved to Division I. He ranked #104 of 119 reported to USA Today last year in base salary (and assuredly behind the nine other private-school coaches whose salaries weren't reported). I'm not against bonuses or incentives, but the base salary needs to be increased. Bumping his base salary up to around $800K would get us near the top 80 in the country and much more in line with the rest of the Conference USA coaches.
    The more REALISTIC statistic would be how does he compare with the other public G5 schools as a whole?
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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    he should be the highest paid coach in CUSA
    We have the lowest budget in C-USA, can't afford full COA, but Skip should be the highest paid coach in C-USA??

    We should cut T-Mac's salary in half and put that money in Holtz's base salary and then fund full COA for football, basketball, and baseball.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    We should cut T-Mac's salary in half and put that money in Holtz's base salary and then fund full COA for football, basketball, and baseball.
    Make Holtz the AD and Football HC. In all three sports he would schedule circles around the guy we are currently paying $240K/year.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Skip wouldn't be here if anyone else would hire him. Still a horrible football coach. Beating a service academy does not earn a raise.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    No salary increase. Instead keep salary as is and offer incentives. Such as

    $100K bonus for winning CUSA championship
    $100K bonus for finishing in the Top 25
    $25K bonus for each win above 9 (So, run the table and finish 14-0 = a $125K bonus)
    $25K bonus for winning a bowl game (no bonus for reaching a bowl, that's expected and is part of his salary base)
    And other incentives in the $5-10K range for academic successes for football players: GPA, graduation rates, etc..
    Hogwash. We should raise Holtz's salary quite a bit (to at least 800K), and STILL add those incentives you mentioned. At this point I would also add two more incentives: a 25K bonus for starting off 4-0 (instead of our usual 1-3), and a 25K bonus for beating USM. Yes, I'm going right at the heart of Holtz's weaknesses.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    We have the lowest budget in C-USA, can't afford full COA, but Skip should be the highest paid coach in C-USA??
    Yeah, well....it's time for that nonsense to change too. I'm tired of LA Tech people wearing the "smallest budget" complaint like a badge of honor. It becomes a built-in excuse for all of our failures and shortcomings.

    The leaders at LA Tech need to figure out a way to make our entire athletic budget bigger.....NOW! LA Tech has been competing in Div 1A (or FBS level) football for almost 30 years, and we STILL have one of the smallest athletic budgets --and maybe THE smallest athletic budget-- in all of FBS. It's embarrassing, and people laugh at us. Don't tell me it can't be changed. It can. It's time for our leadership to FIGURE IT OUT!

    I don't want to hear complaints about "but we only have 12K students", etc... Yeah, well, everybody's got problems so FIGURE IT OUT! We figured out a way to spend $40 Million on capitalized football infrastructure improvements over the last 3 years, so I'm sure we can figure out a way to GROW the budget.

    Right now, I would argue that LA Tech probably has the #1 BRAND in all of CUSA. We are successful in football, basketball, baseball, and academics. Nobody else in CUSA comes close to our broad-based success and accomplishments in all 4 categories. Our recent TV Bowl ratings numbers are just more proof that LA Tech's athletic brand is stronger than anyone's in CUSA. (Yes, from a "brand" perspective, I believe we've passed USM now.) That means LA Tech could easily be involved in the next round of conference realignment --in a good way-- if we can just grow our budget and get our finances together. But, we'll never move up to the AAC until we grow our budget to point that its no longer laughable and no longer a concern for the AAC. So this alone, makes growing our athletic budget paramount.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Skip Holtz View Post
    Skip wouldn't be here if anyone else would hire him. Still a horrible football coach. Beating a service academy does not earn a raise.
    What's wrong with Tech?

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Yeah, well....it's time for that nonsense to change too. I'm tired of LA Tech people wearing the "smallest budget" complaint like a badge of honor. It becomes a built-in excuse for all of our failures and shortcomings.

    The leaders at LA Tech need to figure out a way to make our entire athletic budget bigger.....NOW! LA Tech has been competing in Div 1A (or FBS level) football for almost 30 years, and we STILL have one of the smallest athletic budgets --and maybe THE smallest athletic budget-- in all of FBS. It's embarrassing, and people laugh at us. Don't tell me it can't be changed. It can. It's time for our leadership to FIGURE IT OUT!

    I don't want to hear complaints about "but we only have 12K students", etc... Yeah, well, everybody's got problems so FIGURE IT OUT! We figured out a way to spend $40 Million on capitalized football infrastructure improvements over the last 3 years, so I'm sure we can figure out a way to GROW the budget.

    Right now, I would argue that LA Tech probably has the #1 BRAND in all of CUSA. We are successful in football, basketball, baseball, and academics. Nobody else in CUSA comes close to our broad-based success and accomplishments in all 4 categories. Our recent TV Bowl ratings numbers are just more proof that LA Tech's athletic brand is stronger than anyone's in CUSA. (Yes, from a "brand" perspective, I believe we've passed USM now.) That means LA Tech could easily be involved in the next round of conference realignment --in a good way-- if we can just grow our budget and get our finances together. But, we'll never move up to the AAC until we grow our budget to point that its no longer laughable and no longer a concern for the AAC. So this alone, makes growing our athletic budget paramount.
    VERY well said! AMEN AMEN AMEN

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Yeah, well....it's time for that nonsense to change too. I'm tired of LA Tech people wearing the "smallest budget" complaint like a badge of honor. It becomes a built-in excuse for all of our failures and shortcomings.

    The leaders at LA Tech need to figure out a way to make our entire athletic budget bigger.....NOW! LA Tech has been competing in Div 1A (or FBS level) football for almost 30 years, and we STILL have one of the smallest athletic budgets --and maybe THE smallest athletic budget-- in all of FBS. It's embarrassing, and people laugh at us. Don't tell me it can't be changed. It can. It's time for our leadership to FIGURE IT OUT!





    I don't want to hear complaints about "but we only have 12K students", etc... Yeah, well, everybody's got problems so FIGURE IT OUT! We figured out a way to spend $40 Million on capitalized football infrastructure improvements over the last 3 years, so I'm sure we can figure out a way to GROW the budget.

    Right now, I would argue that LA Tech probably has the #1 BRAND in all of CUSA. We are successful in football, basketball, baseball, and academics. Nobody else in CUSA comes close to our broad-based success and accomplishments in all 4 categories. Our recent TV Bowl ratings numbers are just more proof that LA Tech's athletic brand is stronger than anyone's in CUSA. (Yes, from a "brand" perspective, I believe we've passed USM now.) That means LA Tech could easily be involved in the next round of conference realignment --in a good way-- if we can just grow our budget and get our finances together. But, we'll never move up to the AAC until we grow our budget to point that its no longer laughable and no longer a concern for the AAC. So this alone, makes growing our athletic budget paramount.
    I agree, it is time for leadership to Figure it out!

    We have discussed fundraising on here so many times and there have been a lot of great ideas posted, we have all related it back to alumni not being engaged and not having a professional school such as a law school, med school, etc.

    Louisiana Tech needs to play the hand it has been dealt, we do not train our students to be charitable Alumni to Louisiana Tech during their time here nor after they graduate, we do not have a professional school at this time, we do not have a giving program that really involves the everyday Bulldog fan/Alumni, that is our situation.
    we have made some efforts, but I have not really seen any come to real fruition, at least not in the small contributor area.

    This has been brought up before, why not copy another Universities plan, one that works and put our own spin on it? There is nothing wrong with flattering another University by using the innovations and ideas they have successfully used in fundraising. Take Clemson for example and the "IPTAY" program they have, not only does it raise money, it grows and engages individual alumni and turns them into bigger donors someday. We need funds now though, I realize that, but we have to start growing somewhere, we need to be fighting this battle on another front also, not just on the big donor side.

    Never has it been so easy to set up some small donors as it is now, most every graduating student and student has a debit or credit card, get that dollar a month auto-pay from them and keep growing that base. Just to keep myself from hopelessly rambling about what we can do, Here are some thoughts, ideas, and probably plagiarism below.

    1. Make it a point to get a dollar a month out of every graduating student and student we possibly can, anyone can afford it.

    2. No longer do we have to worry about trying to do some type of mail-out to these donors through the USPS anymore, each student has an e-mail at Louisiana Tech, if we are not already, let them keep it for life. That is our first line of communication, do a mail-out once a year through USPS and the rest can be electronic communication.

    3. Again, Clemson got it right, IPTAY-I pay ten a year, simple, simple, simple. Maybe we have an "iBAY" sector of donors, "I'm a Bulldog All Year", there are a thousand different acronyms we could come up with, we probably have the people right here on this board who can think much farther out of the box than I can, and come up with a great one.

    4. Send them a sticker every year, just like a Tech parking pass, some will use it, some not. Give it some value, free coke at homecoming, etc., just a little recognition, that is all, it means a lot to some.

    5. I Know, I am asking for a lot to come out of that $12 a year, but you have to look at the first year as a break even investment, an investment in the future. These $1 a month auto-pays do not have remain at $1 forever, let it increase by say 50% every year for a certain period, most will go right along with it.

    We have probably mentioned all of these points or ideas at some time or another right here on the board over the last several years, and maybe I am just regurgitating what I remember from that.
    Maybe we already have something like this running or in the works, if so, sorry for all the rambling, but, I still think it is worth mentioning though, in ten years it could be paying our athletic salaries.

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    Re: Skip Holtz's Contract

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    We have the lowest budget in C-USA, can't afford full COA, but Skip should be the highest paid coach in C-USA??

    We should cut T-Mac's salary in half and put that money in Holtz's base salary and then fund full COA for football, basketball, and baseball.
    I second that!

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