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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    There are some other factors to consider if you're gonna compare China to the US, one of which is population density, another is cultural. My experiences in China were always huge crowds, everywhere, tightly packed in mass transit, living on top of each other in small apartments in dense complexes, families jammed together, more sharing of meals with families and neighbors, etc...

    And, again, into early February many in charge in our large cities, like NYC, were saying everything is okay. And please don't deny it, there is video of De Blasio and his chief city health official saying as much.
    DeBlasio doesn’t have a CIA, CDC and NIH reporting to him. Federal leadership has been AWOL.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    DeBlasio doesn’t have a CIA, CDC and NIH reporting to him. Federal leadership has been AWOL.
    Nope it's the state and local governments that weren't prepared to lead. Likewise again I say, it was Bush after 9-11 (8 years) and Obama after 9-11 followup , ISIS threats, illegal aliens crossing the borders with who knows what diseases and H1N1 (8 years) that didn't have the Feds prepared. Not a 38 month President Trump. Period!

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Nope it's the state and local governments that weren't prepared to lead. Likewise again I say, it was Bush after 9-11 (8 years) and Obama after 9-11 followup , ISIS threats, illegal aliens crossing the borders with who knows what diseases and H1N1 (8 years) that didn't have the Feds prepared. Not a 38 month President Trump. Period!
    I still can not believe that Obama didn’t see all this coming 4 years ago and do whatever he had to to mitigate the effect of the virus on people the world over and the world economy. Major fail by Obama.

    If we expect clairvoyance from Trump, then we should expect it from not only Obama, but every other leader that preceded him or even others in our government. Why did’t Bush know he had bad intel on WMD’s? Why didn’t Hillary know that our embassy would be attacked and she should have moved those people days before the event?

    This is an entirely stupid exercise due to the FACT that we don’t have all the information. Not even our leaders have all the information all the time. However, hands down, the Trump Admin has handled this situation with the info provided better than anything in the 8 years that preceded them. And better than much of what GWB dealt with as well.

    Anyone who claims to know better should do 2 things. Run for office and buy a powerball ticket. Surely, you will know well beforehand what the election results will be and what the winning numbers will be.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    You get Post of the Day with this one above...good job!

    But then, you KNEW you were gonna get the nod with your clairvoyance...

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Didn’t have to be clairvoyant to see this one coming. Just had to take it more seriously and not rest on your laurels after restricting travel from global hotspots.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Didn’t have to be clairvoyant to see this one coming. Just had to take it more seriously and not rest on your laurels after restricting travel from global hotspots.
    Yet, none of the great minded leftist in our nation were demanding he do more. He was supposed to do more because he is inept. Do you even realize what you have dreamed up in your hate filled mind?

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Yet none of the great minded leftist in our nation were demanding he do more. He was supposed to do more because he is inept? Do you even realize what you have dreamed up in your hate filled mind? Also, Trump and a few of his advisers were the only people (in the world) who knew all the details other than China. Right?
    You obviously haven’t been paying attention. Remember, you were convinced this couldn’t happen here not that long ago.


    https://news.wbfo.org/post/schumer-s...at-coronavirus

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You obviously haven’t been paying attention. Remember, you were convinced this couldn’t happen here not that long ago.


    https://news.wbfo.org/post/schumer-s...at-coronavirus
    I was convinced what you described could not happen here. So far it (shortage of ICU beds) may or may not be happening in New York or New Orleans. What I said then is still happening now. Those who are already sick are the ones dying.

    March 11 Schumer was bitching about Trump. That's daily with him. Your timeline needed something done a hell of a lot sooner than March 11 when Capt Obvious Schumer began his rant. Where were all your experts between the travel bans and the 2nd week in March? Oh yeah, they were bitching about the travel bans.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    What were you and your liberal buddies doing when the first US case was reported in mid January? Two weeks later the travel ban happened when it became obvious China was lying AND holding back information. Your liberal friends were raising hell about that instead of confronting Trump on the Monday morning QB stuff you hit him with two months later.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I was convinced what you described could not happen here. So far it (shortage of ICU beds) may or may not be happening in New York or New Orleans. What I said then is still happening now. Those who are already sick are the ones dying.

    March 11 Schumer was bitching about Trump. That's daily with him. Your timeline needed something done a hell of a lot sooner than March 11 when Capt Obvious Schumer began his rant. Where were all your experts between the travel bans and the 2nd week in March? Oh yeah, they were bitching about the travel bans.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...response%3famp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nymag.c...s-testing.html

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews...%3fid=69204550

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mar...1-F450FB4733D6

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.msn...mvo80031813741

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/...ronavirus/amp/

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...tates.amp.html

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...irus-rises/amp


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...us-us.amp.html

    Taking a stroll down memory lane just shows how out of touch Trump was with everyone else on COVID 19.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    What were you and your liberal buddies doing when the first US case was reported in mid January? Two weeks later the travel ban happened when it became obvious China was lying AND holding back information. Your liberal friends were raising hell about that instead of confronting Trump on the Monday morning QB stuff you hit him with two months later.
    It was popular water cooler talk at work about what was going on in China through January, and continued to be as it spread to other countries. The first reported community spread case in the US didn’t happen until late February. Once we knew it was outside of China, it was the consensus among all that I talked to that it was coming here.

    I don’t really start threads around here that much anymore, so I commented soon after the first one was created (while you were still in denial thanks in large part to Trump’s cavalier attitude about it). That was in February, I think.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Facts...

    Trump issued a travel ban on Jan 31.
    Director of WHO said travel bans are unnecessary on Feb 4
    Some Dems echoed that and criticized Trump for the bans on Feb 5

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Facts...

    Trump issued a travel ban on Jan 31.
    Director of WHO said travel bans are unnecessary on Feb 4
    Some Dems echoed that and criticized Trump for the bans on Feb 5
    No Dem leaders criticized it. It was the consensus of his scientific advisors to do the ban. Not surprising that it was the one suggestion of theirs that resonated with him.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    This is from February 2

    Democrats criticized the White House announcement that the United States will add six more countries to a controversial travel ban that originally was called a “Muslim ban” by the left, and that Joe Biden on Saturday called a new “African Ban.”House Speaker Nancy Pelosi led the charge in opposition to the travel ban expansion, describing it as “discrimination disguised as policy.”“The Trump administration’s expansion of its outrageous, un-American travel ban threatens our security, our values and the rule of law,” her statement reads. “The sweeping rule, barring more than 350 million individuals from predominantly African nations from traveling to the United States, is discrimination disguised as policy.”To no one’s surprise, she added that Democrats will do all in their power to resist the president. “In the Congress and in the Courts, House Democrats will continue to oppose the Administration’s dangerous anti-immigrant agenda. In the coming weeks, the House Judiciary Committee will mark-up and bring to the Floor the NO BAN Act to prohibit religious discrimination in our immigration system and limit the President’s ability to impose such biased and bigoted restrictions.”On Friday, Acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf told reporters that after a “systematic review” of all countries, six nations were added to the travel ban list: Burma, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Nigeria, Sudan, and Tanzania.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    February 5

    As we said, three experts called by Democrats at a House subcommittee hearing on Feb. 5 questioned the decision. Dr. Jennifer Nuzzo, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, was one of them.
    Nuzzo, Feb. 5: [W]e need to seriously reexamine the current policy of banning travel from China and quarantining returning travelers. All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders. These measures may exacerbate the epidemic’s social and economic tolls and can make us less safe. Simply put, this virus is spreading too quickly and too silently, and our surveillance is too limited for us to truly know which countries have active transmission and which don’t. The virus could enter the U.S. from other parts of the world not on our restricted list, and it may already be circulating here.

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