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    Re: The Violent Left

    On January 27 Pelosi said Dems would fight any travel bans imposed by Trump.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/27/nancy-pelosi-block-trump-travel-ban/



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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    On January 27 Pelosi said Dems would fight any travel bans imposed by Trump.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/27/nancy-pelosi-block-trump-travel-ban/


    That was a different travel ban entirely unrelated to coronavirus.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    That was a different travel ban entirely unrelated to coronavirus.
    Of course. Which one was it?

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    No Dem leaders criticized it.
    You have a really selective memory which lies its way in a complete circle back to the same false reality.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Of course. Which one was it?
    On January 31, 2020, the same day he placed travel restrictions on China, he also expanded his Muslim ban to new countries — Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan, and Tanzania.

    I know it is hard to keep up with the many different Trump travel bans, but please do try.

    https://www.rollcall.com/2020/01/31/...six-countries/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    You have a really selective memory which lies its way in a complete circle back to the same false reality.
    What Dem leader criticized it?

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Whatever they accuse Trump of doing, they have been doing even longer.

    Dems- “Yes, we support this bill reducing regulation on small business development. However, another important aspect of this bill is the protection of the Asian Water Monitor in Thailand.”

    No, this is not a real example, but it’s not an exaggeration in the least.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    So if we double the death total every 4 days, starting from now at 5,000, how many days does it take to get to 100,000?

    A really crude estimation...
    April 2 - 5000
    April 6- 10000
    April 10 - 20000
    April 14 - 40000
    April 18 - 80000

    I am not predicting those numbers, but just giving you an example of how exponential functions work based on the two data points you gave. Do Trump supporters not understand exponential functions?
    Looking at the data, we are still on this trend. Probably hit the apex before April 18, though, so the doubling will start to take longer than 4 days by then.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Looking at the data, we are still on this trend. Probably hit the apex before April 18, though, so the doubling will start to take longer than 4 days by then.
    It is possible...and I hope this happens...that the stringent mitigation procedures employed will change the projected rate. It should, in theory. I mean there has been concerted effort to flatten the curve, so hopefully the projections based on pre-social distancing (and other measures) are not now the true path. We'll soon see!

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Looking at the data, we are still on this trend. Probably hit the apex before April 18, though, so the doubling will start to take longer than 4 days by then.
    Looks like it's already taking longer than 4 days.

    4/2 - 5153 deaths and 217,000 confirmed cases

    4/5 - 6593 deaths and 277,205 confirmed cases

    Edit:

    4/5 - 8500(ish) deaths. CDC does not update weekend stats until Monday?

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Looks like it's already taking longer than 4 days.

    4/2 - 5153 deaths and 217,000 confirmed cases

    4/5 - 6593 deaths and 277,205 confirmed cases

    Edit:

    4/5 - 8500(ish) deaths. CDC does not update weekend stats until Monday?
    I use infection2020.com, but weekend updates are more sporadic.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    On January 31, 2020, the same day he placed travel restrictions on China, he also expanded his Muslim ban to new countries — Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar, Nigeria, Sudan, and Tanzania.

    I know it is hard to keep up with the many different Trump travel bans, but please do try.

    https://www.rollcall.com/2020/01/31/...six-countries/
    I must say I agree with all of the travel bans and would be fine with many more countries being banned. Stressful and dangerous times like these beg for these to be in place as well as others.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I must say I agree with all of the travel bans and would be fine with many more countries being banned. Stressful and dangerous times like these beg for these to be in place as well as others.
    I support TIGHT, monitored travel controls, and in some cases bans, for other reasons beyond just contagious diseases.

    As for this circumstance, I think we'll see another change at points of entry, with airports being the primary places. Saw on FOX that Singapore has installed infrared scanners that scan an arriving flight as people are just getting off the plane. There are agents watching a monitor and if any passenger displays a "hot" spot they are pulled aside for further checking. I don't know how effective this is being and if there are other better ways to accomplish the same thing...screening folks who have a fever. But, look for such measures to be implemented at all international airports for sure.

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I must say I agree with all of the travel bans and would be fine with many more countries being banned. Stressful and dangerous times like these beg for these to be in place as well as others.
    Just so it is clear that this literally had nothing to do with coronavirus.

    The official mentioned the new nations on the list had some combination of the following attributes: They do not issue passports with electronic chips, have not enforced lost passport reporting policies consistent with international standards and have not shared criminal and biometric information with the United States. They also may exhibit economic or political conditions that make them vulnerable to terrorist groups.

    “We look at compliance and risk in tandem, because we are intrinsically more concerned about risk stemming from gaps and vulnerabilities in high-risk countries, particularly the higher risk that a terrorist can come to the United States,” the official said. “These kinds of fundamental identity management and information sharing gaps become a much higher priority, although we do expect all nations in the world to meet the baseline.”

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    Re: The Violent Left

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Just so it is clear that this literally had nothing to do with coronavirus.

    The official mentioned the new nations on the list had some combination of the following attributes: They do not issue passports with electronic chips, have not enforced lost passport reporting policies consistent with international standards and have not shared criminal and biometric information with the United States. They also may exhibit economic or political conditions that make them vulnerable to terrorist groups.

    “We look at compliance and risk in tandem, because we are intrinsically more concerned about risk stemming from gaps and vulnerabilities in high-risk countries, particularly the higher risk that a terrorist can come to the United States,” the official said. “These kinds of fundamental identity management and information sharing gaps become a much higher priority, although we do expect all nations in the world to meet the baseline.”
    Sounds like a muslim ban alright.

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