The Violent Left

[johnnylightnin]

No, stealing elections will cause democracy to fail.

This is a snowflake position. There’s no evidence, but you FEEL it was stolen. What happened to facts don’t care about your feelings?

[inudesu]

This is a snowflake position. There’s no evidence, but you FEEL it was stolen. What happened to facts don’t care about your feelings?

I think the "facts" are just going to be evidence (that can't be shown because it was destroyed, but only after Rudy discovered it) and then some name-calling.

Those are the facts.

And maybe some whatabouts for good measure.

[johnnylightnin]

I think the "facts" are just going to be evidence (that can't be shown because it was destroyed, but only after Rudy discovered it) and then some name-calling.

Those are the facts.

And maybe some whatabouts for good measure.

Jonah Goldberg sums it up well: https://gfile.thedispatch.com/p/capi...rican-benghazi

[dawg80]

You commies stole the 2020 POTUS election. Period. Again, high five each other and gloat. Congrats on the theft. It is just the latest in a long line of scandals and schemes wrought by the Left. Of course this one is the worst by far.

A few reminders:

Adam Shifty Schiff told the whole world, oh yeah, he had real evidence of Trump's Russian collusion that he was holding until the impeachment trial. Well...?

Quid pro quo Joe says there was no connection between a $billion in US aid and his wanting a prosecutor fired to save Hunter's ass from Ukrainian prison. Yet, he is on video boasting about it.

Krooked Killary had an illegal server, she and her ilk destroyed subpoenaed evidence, such as cell phones and laptops, which alone sends folks to prison.

The Mueller Report! LOL! That joke speaks for itself.

And those same people, and social media tech, and the lamestream media all say we should trust them when they say the election wasn't stolen. After all, just look at their track record of honesty and integrity....

[johnnylightnin]

You commies stole the 2020 POTUS election. Period. Again, high five each other and gloat. Congrats on the theft. It is just the latest in a long line of scandals and schemes wrought by the Left. Of course this one is the worst by far.

A few reminders:

Adam Shifty Schiff told the whole world, oh yeah, he had real evidence of Trump's Russian collusion that he was holding until the impeachment trial. Well...?

Quid pro quo Joe says there was no connection between a $billion in US aid and his wanting a prosecutor fired to save Hunter's ass from Ukrainian prison. Yet, he is on video boasting about it.

Krooked Killary had an illegal server, she and her ilk destroyed subpoenaed evidence, such as cell phones and laptops, which alone sends folks to prison.

The Mueller Report! LOL! That joke speaks for itself.

And those same people, and social media tech, and the lamestream media all say we should trust them when they say the election wasn't stolen. After all, just look at their track record of honesty and integrity....

Social media and MSM? Nah. You should believe it because the courts have said about 60 times that there’s no merit to Trump’s claims...many of them Trump appointees.

[glm47]

Social media and MSM? Nah. You should believe it because the courts have said about 60 times that there’s no merit to Trump’s claims...many of them Trump appointees.

Says the sucker that bought Russia collusion and QPQ based on biased, bogus investigations by Democratic operatives.

That’s why you’ll forever be known as Johnny Lightweight.

[johnnylightnin]

Says the sucker that bought Russia collusion and QPQ based on biased, bogus investigations by Democratic operatives.

That’s why you’ll forever be known as Johnny Lightweight.

Right. My gullibility directly correlates with a bunch of Trump lawyers ruling against him.

Your Trump impression still sucks.

[dawg80]

Social media and MSM? Nah. You should believe it because the courts have said about 60 times that there’s no merit to Trump’s claims...many of them Trump appointees.

Every instance either the court dismissed it on some arbitrary procedural reason, such as "sorry, by law this petition had to have been filed within 72 hours of the election day. You missed it by a 1/2 day...so sorry, go away." Or in some cases the evidence had been destroyed and Trump's team knew it was futile to pursue it further. In one or more cases, Trump's lawyer(s) was delayed even being to file a petition to the court..."you can come in front of the bench next Wednesday." But, that would be too late, we need a court-ordered stay to secure ballots today! Of course by that "next Wednesday" all the ballots had been destroyed.

Again, I can go on with other examples. But, like Trump's team learned, it is water under the bridge now. Trump was right when he said he surprised them in 2016, but then they had 4 years to concoct an extensive scheme that involved poll workers, SOS, and judges in key districts and an army of hired workers to orchestrate it all. And they pulled it off...

[inudesu]

But that's simply not true.

We've linked to the actual judge's statements for several of these cases. They weren't all dismissed on standing.



The facts were just not there.

[Guisslapp]

But that's simply not true.

We've linked to the actual judge's statements for several of these cases. They weren't all dismissed on standing.



The facts were just not there.

This article has a short summary of all the cases.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elec...ry?id=74041748

[inudesu]

This article has a short summary of all the cases.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elec...ry?id=74041748

I don't think those are all dismissed on standing or laches or technicalities. Doesn't seem that way.

Several were withdrawn. That would seem like maybe they weren't strong cases. And some address the merits.

A couple of those rulings (that we've quoted here) are really good explanations.

[Guisslapp]

Every instance either the court dismissed it on some arbitrary procedural reason, such as "sorry, by law this petition had to have been filed within 72 hours of the election day. You missed it by a 1/2 day...so sorry, go away." Or in some cases the evidence had been destroyed and Trump's team knew it was futile to pursue it further. In one or more cases, Trump's lawyer(s) was delayed even being to file a petition to the court..."you can come in front of the bench next Wednesday." But, that would be too late, we need a court-ordered stay to secure ballots today! Of course by that "next Wednesday" all the ballots had been destroyed.

Again, I can go on with other examples. But, like Trump's team learned, it is water under the bridge now. Trump was right when he said he surprised them in 2016, but then they had 4 years to concoct an extensive scheme that involved poll workers, SOS, and judges in key districts and an army of hired workers to orchestrate it all. And they pulled it off...

Are you calling standing and mootness/ripeness “arbitrary procedural reasons”? Those are constitutional reasons. It would be unconstitutional for a court to hear a case where the plaintiff lacked standing or where a court can’t provide the requested relief because the issue is moot.

[Guisslapp]

I don't think those are all dismissed on standing or laches or technicalities. Doesn't seem that way.

Several were withdrawn. That would seem like maybe they weren't strong cases. And some address the merits.

A couple of those rulings (that we've quoted here) are really good explanations.

Many were plain dismissed on the merits.

[turbodawg]

Agreed! the BLM riots were much worse.

You think Mike Pence agrees with you?

[TYLERTECHSAS]

What Trump did was wrong, and what the people did at the capitol was wrong.. But to say that BLM or Antifa did over the summer did not get encouragement from local and national lawmakers is dishonest.

Amen to all points.