The Violent Left

[dawg80]

Sounds like a muslim ban alright.

There should be an absolute 100% travel ban from some "extremist Islamic nations," period. From others, tight controls.

Need to mention, as an FYI, there is a difference, technically, between "Islamic" nations and "Muslim" nations. It might appear as a ticky-tack distinction, but it is real. "Islamic" nations are theocracies, ruled by extremist clerics. Iran is one such. On the other hand, "Muslim" nations are governed by a civil authority or perhaps a monarchy and the primary religion happens to be Islam. Jordan is one such nation.

Keep in mind the Kurds are Muslims...and there is no better ally to the US today. Even though we recently tried to chit all over 'em…

[PawDawg]

Keep in mind the Kurds are Muslims...and there is no better ally to the US today. Even though we recently tried to chit all over 'em…

We did what we told them we were going to do. The blowup was just another attempt from the RINOs and the other haters to make the administration look bad. Those who thought the Kurds would face heavy losses were proven wrong. We never left them high and dry like the haters said we were going to do.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

[QUOTE=Guisslapp;1760642]Just so it is clear that this literally had nothing to do with coronavirus.

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This thread really wasn’t about the China virus.
But in some cases it applies as nations the travel bans are aimed, are very violent towards life in general, their own people and other ethnic and religions.

[dawg80]

We did what we told them we were going to do. The blowup was just another attempt from the RINOs and the other haters to make the administration look bad. Those who thought the Kurds would face heavy losses were proven wrong. We never left them high and dry like the haters said we were going to do.

I am as BIG a Trump supporter you will find...I think you know that. But, unlike our libtard posters here, I do not march lockstep with anyone! I think for myself. Which is why I have some measure of credibility...

The truth is, re: Trump's surprise announcement, it was our military guys on the ground who did not abandon the Kurds in that crucial, early period...up to about a week. The Turks had to back off out of fear of killing Americans who stayed close to the Kurds. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WE DIDN'T SEE MORE KURDISH CASUALTIES!!!* Then, what was it, about 72 hours later, Trump changed his mind and issued a different order which stabilized the situation in northern Syria.

*as it was the Kurds suffered about 2,400 casualties, of those it was about 300 killed, 2,100 wounded.

So, yeah, our (Trump's) policy has changed. Things are stable in northern Syria, and we still have troops on the ground there. The Turks have taken a bloody nose from all of this too. The Kurds absolutely kicked their ass a few months ago, and during their retreat, the Turks were attacked by some of Assad's units who inflicted more damage on them. The Turks, Erogan, pleaded to NATO to bail them out. But no NATO country agreed to send in military support.

Back to Trump...he made a mistake by making that statement of withdrawing all US troops from Syria. The Turks were poised just across the border, itching for a chance to invade and destroy the Kurds. We knew the Turks had positioned 3 full divisions, about 35,000 soldiers, supported by tanks and aircraft, on their border with Syria, not for defensive purposes, but in an offensive, invasion posture. Actually, by acting too quickly the Turks did themselves a disservice. They should have been more patient and waited until US troops were actually out of Syria.

Again...it was brave and gallant US soldiers who put themselves at risk by acting as a human shield to protect our Kurdish allies in those early days of the invasion. As it was two of our guys were wounded when their observation bunker was shelled by Turkish artillery. Their injuries, and the near-miss of worse, spooked Erogan and he ordered a cease fire allowing us to get our guys out of the way. The Kurds used that opportunity to withdraw as well, which is why there is still a significant Kurdish presence in northern Syria.

I have no problem with eventually withdrawing our troops out of Syria, and Iraq, and Afghanistan...but we MUST provide for the Kurds and other allies (groups) to be able to fend for themselves. My God, man! The Kurds suffered incredible losses defeating ISIS. They stood right next to our guys on the frontlines and often undertook the most dangerous missions, with us providing air support. They have EARNED our loyalty back to them.

[Guisslapp]

This thread really wasn’t about the China virus.
But in some cases it applies as nations the travel bans are aimed, are very violent towards life in general, their own people and other ethnic and religions.

Dawg80 posted Pelosi’s criticism to the expansion of the Muslim ban as evidence that Dems opposes the coronavirus travel restrictions.

The two were not the same even though they were both issued the same day. The China travel restrictions overshadowed the expansion of the Muslim travel ban in the news, so Trump and other right wingers have conflated Dems criticism of the latter with a criticism of the former. While a few have criticized the coronavirus travel restrictions, that certainly isn’t the view of Democrat orthodoxy.

Regardless, the benefits of the China travel restriction were severely blunted by our inability to start widespread testing soon thereafter. As you can see from the chart of disease spread, without isolation and containment, the number of cases you start with make little difference if you don’t contain the spread.

For example, starting with 100 or 10,000 cases in the US becomes negligible within 1 week if you don’t contain the 100. That, in essence, is why the China travel ban ended up not mattering very much. We failed to isolate and contain before we had our own contagion.

[dawg80]

On the issue of testing...the latest talking point of the left. What testing? A test that did no even exist until...when January, maybe? Oh, but wait! It was just stated again today that the numbers being reported by Italy, Germany, and Spain are bogus!!! They don't truly know how widespread the infection is because the bulk of their tests were not reliable, and are still not reliable. That was made clear today. So, the left needs to think of some other silly reason to criticize Trump...

[Guisslapp]

On the issue of testing...the latest talking point of the left. What testing? A test that did no even exist until...when January, maybe? Oh, but wait! It was just stated again today that the numbers being reported by Italy, Germany, and Spain are bogus!!! They don't truly know how widespread the infection is because the bulk of their tests were not reliable, and are still not reliable. That was made clear today. So, the left needs to think of some other silly reason to criticize Trump...

What are you talking about?

[dawg80]

What are you talking about?

Not surprised by your reaction since the lamestream media is covering it up. Try accessing more than just the DNC's puppet mouths.

And we need to redirect this line of posts to the C-19 thread...

[TYLERTECHSAS]

On the issue of testing...the latest talking point of the left. What testing? A test that did no even exist until...when January, maybe? Oh, but wait! It was just stated again today that the numbers being reported by Italy, Germany, and Spain are bogus!!! They don't truly know how widespread the infection is because the bulk of their tests were not reliable, and are still not reliable. That was made clear today. So, the left needs to think of some other silly reason to criticize Trump...

100% correct!

Yes this needs to be on the Covid -19 or China thread

[FriscoDog]

So Adam Schiff leaks letter (addressed to Grenell) to the press before Grenell ever gets it.. Schiff needs to be arrested IMO.. much of what is wrong in DC is because of the likes of him..

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His letter was sent to the press before it was sent to me. These press leaks politicizing the intelligence community must stop


https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/

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New: Intel Chair Schiff sent a letter today to acting DNI @RichardGrenell raising concern he is reorganizing w/o receiving congressional authorization. Asks him to produce info to committee by April 16.

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Props to Grenell for calling this out directly. Makes you wonder how long Schiff and Co have been doing this. Only now it's brought to light because a Gov bureaucrat lifer is isn't the position.

[PawDawg]

So Adam Schiff leaks letter (addressed to Grenell) to the press before Grenell ever gets it.. Schiff needs to be arrested IMO.. much of what is wrong in DC is because of the likes of him..

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His letter was sent to the press before it was sent to me. These press leaks politicizing the intelligence community must stop


https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/

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New: Intel Chair Schiff sent a letter today to acting DNI @RichardGrenell raising concern he is reorganizing w/o receiving congressional authorization. Asks him to produce info to committee by April 16.

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Props to Grenell for calling this out directly. Makes you wonder how long Schiff and Co have been doing this. Only now it's brought to light because a Gov bureaucrat lifer is isn't the position.

We know he did it during and before the entire "whistle blower" fiasco. Comey did it going back to January of 2017.

[glm47]

We know he did it during and before the entire "whistle blower" fiasco. Comey did it going back to January of 2017.

I would gladly take on the job of executioner for Schiff, Comey, and Brennan. All three are traitors.

[tech70]

Prosecutor for me, I personally feel life in prison is a much harsher punishment vs execution.

[Guisslapp]

So Adam Schiff leaks letter (addressed to Grenell) to the press before Grenell ever gets it.. Schiff needs to be arrested IMO.. much of what is wrong in DC is because of the likes of him..

quote:

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His letter was sent to the press before it was sent to me. These press leaks politicizing the intelligence community must stop


https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/

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New: Intel Chair Schiff sent a letter today to acting DNI @RichardGrenell raising concern he is reorganizing w/o receiving congressional authorization. Asks him to produce info to committee by April 16.

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Props to Grenell for calling this out directly. Makes you wonder how long Schiff and Co have been doing this. Only now it's brought to light because a Gov bureaucrat lifer is isn't the position.

Arrested for “leaking” a letter that he wrote? Arrested for what?

[FriscoDog]

Schiff has lied to the Senate, leaked documents to press in the past, all in attempts to control a narrative in the MSM. He also sought to conspire with what he thought were Ukrainian operatives that had dirt on Trump, when it turned out to be a radio DJ playing a prank.