Baylor Football: 52 Rapes in 4 Years Allegation

[DogsWin]

Three more Baylor football players suspended by head football coach Matt Rhule for alleged sexual assault of female students.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...lt-allegations

[PawDawg]

Yep, Baylor is a private university affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention. The same denomination that supported slavery and still doesn’t recognize women as pastors... go figure

You went o for 3 on this one.

[Guisslapp]

You went o for 3 on this one.

“WHEREAS, Our relationship to African-Americans has been hindered from the beginning by the role that slavery played in the formation of the Southern Baptist Convention; and

WHEREAS, Many of our Southern Baptist forbears defended the right to own slaves, and either participated in, supported, or acquiesced in the particularly inhumane nature of American slavery; and

WHEREAS, In later years Southern Baptists failed, in many cases, to support, and in some cases opposed, legitimate initiatives to secure the civil rights of African-Americans; and”

http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/899/r...ist-convention

[Guisslapp]

You went o for 3 on this one.

And has the SBC overturned the resolution from the 1980s prohibiting women as pastors?

“WHEREAS, The Scriptures teach that women are not in public worship to assume a role of authority over men lest confusion reign in the local church (1 Cor. 14:33-36); and

WHEREAS, While Paul commends women and men alike in other roles of ministry and service (Titus 2:1-10), he excludes women from pastoral leadership (1 Tim. 2:12) to preserve a submission God requires because the man was first in creation and the woman was first in the Edenic fall (1 Tim. 2:13ff); and“

“Therefore, be it RESOLVED, That we not decide concerns of Christians doctrine and practice by modern cultural, sociological, and ecclesiastical trends or by emotional factors; that we remind ourselves of the dearly bought Baptist principle of the final authority of Scripture in matters of faith and conduct; and that we encourage the service of women in all aspects of church life and work other than pastoral functions and leadership roles entailing ordination.”

http://www.sbc.net/resolutions/1088/

[PawDawg]

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None of the 3 are acceptable today. Times change, but you seem to pick and choose which times to remember as much as you take scripture out of context.

[Guisslapp]

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None of the 3 are acceptable today. Times change, but you seem to pick and choose which times to remember as much as you take scripture out of context.

He is technically at least 1 for 3 as he stated supported slavery (past tense). Maybe 2 for 3 since you have not shown anything to support the idea that the SBC has reversed its stance on women pastors.

The Baylor comment was wrong but also on a technicality. It is TBC, which itself is a partner with the SBC. So it is similar to calling Trump supporters Republicans.

[longdawgview]

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None of the 3 are acceptable today. Times change, but you seem to pick and choose which times to remember as much as you take scripture out of context.

Lol, straight from there website http://www.sbc.net/faqs.asp

They do not support women pastors

[HogDawg]

You people have definitely run out of important stuff to talk about this off-season.

[longdawgview]

“In 1995, Southern Baptist officials formally renounced the church's support of slavery and segregation.”


“The state's established Baptist organization, the 2.7-million-member Baptist General Convention of Texas, is the largest state organization within the Southern Baptist Convention”

Edit: 3 for 3

[johnnylightnin]

“In 1995, Southern Baptist officials formally renounced the church's support of slavery and segregation.”


“The state's established Baptist organization, the 2.7-million-member Baptist General Convention of Texas, is the largest state organization within the Southern Baptist Convention”

Edit: 3 for 3

The BGCT is affiliated with the SBC as well as the CBF. They have had a rather tenuous relationship with the SBC since the early 90s. Many churches affiliate with the BGCT, but do not affiliate with the SBC. I would say Baylor is more affiliated with the BGCT than with the SBC. Truett Seminary is certainly not affiliated with the SBC.

Southern Baptists do still affirm what Paul said about the qualifications for eldership.

[Cal&Ken]

The BGCT is affiliated with the SBC as well as the CBF. They have had a rather tenuous relationship with the SBC since the early 90s. Many churches affiliate with the BGCT, but do not affiliate with the SBC. I would say Baylor is more affiliated with the BGCT than with the SBC. Truett Seminary is certainly not affiliated with the SBC.

Southern Baptists do still affirm what Paul said about the qualifications for eldership.

I just started the college touring process with my daughter. I am guessing that Baylor will be as TCU is, and distance themselves of being a true "Christian" university. In the tour TCU welcomes anyone, everyone, and you are welcome to be involved in any religious affiliation, or non at all there. From the Baylor website, I am guessing we will be told the same thing. It is a "Christian" university if you want it to be. The Baylor FB page at least has things that indicate they are a Christian though.

[PawDawg]

Some of the strongest people I know are SBC women in leadership roles and real ministry roles in the SBC. It does make for more drama when a person who has an axe to grind makes stuff up to appear PC. 0 for 3

[johnnylightnin]

The Baylor FB page at least has things that indicate they are a Christian though.

Whatever they happen to mean by that!

[johnnylightnin]

Some of the strongest people I know are SBC women in leadership roles and real ministry roles in the SBC. It does make for more drama when a person who has an axe to grind makes stuff up to appear PC. 0 for 3

Women can't be pastors in the SBC. That's not something to be ashamed about. And the fact that we didn't officially renounce slavery until the mid 90s is atrocious. We don't gain anything by denying either.

[PawDawg]

Women can't be pastors in the SBC. That's not something to be ashamed about.

Apparently some have a problem with titles not being given, culture from 100 years ago, and bad info on Baylor.