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    Re: Russia

    Out of those facts, the only thing close to being collusion is the 30,000-email thing that was taken so far out of proportion to be beyond even how close that collusion could even be.

    For reference, MACS0647-JD is closer to Earth than that is to collusion.


    And remember, collusion isn’t a crime. Working with foreign nationals to get a “thing of value” to influence the election is a crime, though. And we have ample proof that happened thanks to the existence of the Steele dossier. We shouldn’t ignore the Democrats crimes just because they lost.

    So far, things with Trump stink, but nothing criminal has been shown in well over a year. Sorry I don’t get all tied up because someone lied to the FBI. I hate people lying about things, but our country has such a prosecution-complex, I at least understand why it’s done some times.

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    Mueller’s call if he thinks he has evidence to prove “conspiracy” BRD, but the facts I cited are actual evidence currently of public record and would likely be part of the case.

    Paying for opposition research with campaign dollars is not conspiracy to break a law.

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    And lying to the feds is a serious crime.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    And lying to the feds is a serious crime.
    Well the 'craps do that all the time.

    But, for the record, I don't think simply 'lying to the feds' should be anymore of a crime than lying to your local police department is. Those "in trouble" tend to taint the truth as an act of self-preservation. Nope! nothing special about the feds. In fact, eff 'em! the federal guvmint is an enemy of the American people anyway.

    No, if someone has actually committed a crime then prosecute them based on the law. Not because someone "lied" to the feds.

    Example: State Trooper pulls over a bunch of cars because some remote sensing device detected a group of cars speeding. Trooper walks up to your car, and you say, yeah, it was me speeding, not that red corvette up there (that is driven by your friend and who has tons of speeding tix). Later it is proven (somehow) it was the corvette, not you, topping 100+. Yes, you lied to the Trooper, but you were actually clocked at 80 (in the 75mph zone), the vette flew by you just as the detecting device painted that group of cars. The driver of the vette should be ticketed, and you, probably not ticketed since they don't usually for a +5 violation.

    There is none, and should not be any, at any level, a penalty for lying to law enforcement, including the feds. (No, I don't mean perjury in court). If LE wants to get the truth, do it on their own.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    And lying to the feds is a serious crime.
    Tell that to the liberal Dems that do it daily and have been getting away with it for decades.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Tell that to the liberal Dems that do it daily and have been getting away with it for decades.
    Most recent example?

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Most recent example?
    Too many to list and you obviously haven't been truly reading this forum.

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    Re: Russia

    So! Tell us something we don't know about the Russians. Hillary did it to Bernie Sanders and Obama to Bibi in Israel.

    DOJ announces indictments of slew of Russians for meddling in elections

    Trump cleared? Indictment says Russians worked with 'unwitting' participants...

    The indictment also said that those charged staged political rallies inside the United States, posing as Americans and U.S. grassroots group. Some of them communicated with "unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities."

    DC ROCKED: MUELLER INDICTS 13 RUSSIANS, MORE
    BREAKING NEWSMUELLER STRIKES

    DOJ announces indictments of slew of Russians for meddling in elections


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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Too many to list and you obviously haven't been truly reading this forum.
    Just asking for one.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Just asking for one.
    But apparently one real example is too much.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    So! Tell us something we don't know about the Russians. Hillary did it to Bernie Sanders and Obama to Bibi in Israel.

    DOJ announces indictments of slew of Russians for meddling in elections

    Trump cleared? Indictment says Russians worked with 'unwitting' participants...

    The indictment also said that those charged staged political rallies inside the United States, posing as Americans and U.S. grassroots group. Some of them communicated with "unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities."

    DC ROCKED: MUELLER INDICTS 13 RUSSIANS, MORE
    BREAKING NEWSMUELLER STRIKES

    DOJ announces indictments of slew of Russians for meddling in elections

    So we can now expect Trump to now acknowledge that Russia interfered to help him and hurt Hillary?

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    So we can now expect Trump to now acknowledge that Russia interfered to help him and hurt Hillary?
    Statement included in the "indictments" says none of this altered outcome of the election.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Statement included in the "indictments" says none of this altered outcome of the election.
    Why would it say that? They don’t have to prove that the plan worked to convict. They are only claiming what the jntent of their actions was.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Just asking for one.
    Prove to me you've been reading any of the massive posts on BB&B per the usual Dem/Lib suspects that lied to the Feds the last 2 decades and have been getting away with it.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Why would it say that? They don’t have to prove that the plan worked to convict. They are only claiming what the jntent of their actions was.
    They indicted a bunch of bots. They could have come to THE BBB for that.

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