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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    He can't drain the swamp when they are in his cabinet.
    Out of 24 Cabinet or cabinet-level positions, 8 are swamp inhabitants. That is pretty good.

    Mike Pence (VP)
    Jeff Sessions (AG)
    Tom Price (HHS)
    Elaine Chao (Transportation)
    Reince Priebus (Chief of Staff)
    Dan Coats (DNI)
    Mick Mulvaney (OMB)
    Mike Pompeo (CIA)


    I did not count Ryan Zinke (Interior) and David Shulkin (VA) because they were not in DC long enough. Yes, it is an arbitrary cutoff.
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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    The only bar lower would have been Rubio or Kasich.

    The healthcare bill was not "bungled". It was a horrible bill. The fact that otherwise conservative congressmen were for it is the scary part. Ryan is horrible.


    Always an excuse when Trump compromises. When politicians (who, by definition, compromise) do it, it's a character flaw!

    Rubio and Kasich could teach Trump a lot about conviction, but I know you're just trying to goad me. What they would've done is of no consequence now...let's evaluate the "leadership" of the deal maker. Unimpressive if you're honest...and I know you are.
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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Idiots? More like patriots who voted for what they were elected to do. I do understand what you are saying though.

    Do you know of ANYTHING the freedom caucus got they were asking for?
    Get ready...this is where we're headed. The conservatives are the problem...cut the deal!
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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Get ready...this is where we're headed. The conservatives are the problem...cut the deal!
    I think so too.

    FWIW, I don't approve of Trump getting in bed with Ryan on this thing.

    Did you notice how many of these congressmen didn't take a stand before the vote count? Then after, they jump on the train like they were for it all along. I'm very disappointed in my congressman for doing that. I guarantee that 75% of his voting base expect him to vote hard line conservative.
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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Idiots? More like patriots who voted for what they were elected to do. I do understand what you are saying though.

    Do you know of ANYTHING the freedom caucus got they were asking for?
    Well, the blame is really at the feet of Paul Ryan, no doubt. He needs to be replaced.

    I do believe the freedom caucus got the provision removed that set requirements for what the insurance policy MUST cover. They wanted the provision removed that covers pre-existing conditions, and that may have gotten them reelected in their districts, but it would have sunk the GOP for years to come.

    With the makeup of the republican party and with Ryan as the speaker, this bill may have been as good as it's going to get. Yes, the bill sucked, but not as bad as Obamacare. It was a small step in the right direction, and I fear the dems are going to run this show if Trump tries again (because Trump is not a conservative). Trump will work with those that offer him the best possiblility of success (but NOT RUSSIA, for anyone wanting to go there).

    In many respects, Trump is pretty much like Bill Clinton.

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post

    I do believe the freedom caucus got the provision removed that set requirements for what the insurance policy MUST cover. They wanted the provision removed that covers pre-existing conditions, and that may have gotten them reelected in their districts, but it would have sunk the GOP for years to come.

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    Actually the freedom caucus wanted real insurance. Any "insurance policy" with mandates of pre-ex conditions is not insurance. As we both know it was set up as a government entitlement just like Obamacare.
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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Actually the freedom caucus wanted real insurance. Any "insurance policy" with mandates of pre-ex conditions is not insurance. As we both know it was set up as a government entitlement just like Obamacare.
    There is no way to exclude the pre-existing condition requirement from future regulations unless someone wants to commit political suicide. So what are the options?
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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    There is no way to exclude the pre-existing condition requirement from future regulations unless someone wants to commit political suicide. So what are the options?
    Congress is way over paid to figure this out. I was simply pointing out that when pre-ex is removed it is no longer insurance.

    Our people have also been indoctrinated to believe that the "must buy" mandate needs to be included.
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    Re: Russia

    Russia is a distraction created by the left to keep everyone from focusing on stuff like this (like we're supposed to think this is the FIRST time Russia meddled in our election process and we're supposed to pretend that we don't know that Obama and his admin had a pattern of politicizing and weaponizing the US Government agencies like the IRS):

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...iates-in-intel

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    Re: Russia

    Special counsel appointed. As the world turns...

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    Re: Russia

    ​So many places this article could go.

    INSIDE LEFT'S SECRET PLOT FOR COUP AGAINST TRUMP


    'They cannot allow the world to see he could make the country better'

    Published: 17 hours ago
    WASHINGTON – The formula for a de facto coup against President Trump is pretty simple and it’s happening before our very eyes, according to one of the nation’s top scholars and most esteemed political analysts.
    And evidence for that theory is backed up by equally renowned political observers.
    This is how it works, according to classics scholar, Stanford fellow and National Review columnist Victor Davis Hanson:
    • The mainstream media pumps out anti-Trump stories to undermine the president.
    • That creates doubt and uncertainty among lawmakers, especially those from “purple” states (those that are not overwhelmingly Republican or Democratic.)
    • Removing the support of the “purple” GOP lawmakers gives Democrats a de facto majority to stop the Trump agenda, even though Republicans have majorities in both the House and the Senate.
    Speaking with Tucker Carlson on Fox News on Thursday, Hanson described how it began with the creation of a narrative of a failing presidency.
    “What were seeing here, I don’t want to be too dramatic, it’s sort of, historically, a slow-motion coup where you have a nexus of celebrities, academics, the Democratic and progressive parties, and then you have the media, and they feel they can delegitimize a president with a thousand nicks, none of them significant in themselves, but they coalesced to build a narrative that Trump is inexperienced, that he is uncouth, that he’s crude, that is reckless,” explained the scholar.
    Those small wounds take a collective toll, paralyzing the administration and the government by disabling the Republican majority.
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    “Each day, the point is to drive his popularity down one half a point, one point, until he can’t function in Congress because purple state congressional representatives don’t want to take the risk to further his initiatives.”
    Hanson described how the mainstream media doesn’t need to find any actual or provable wrongdoing by the administration to keep the Democrats’ anti-Trump agenda in the headlines and hobble the president.
    “I mean we’ve had a whole cadre of Washington and New York reporters that have done nothing other than, for six months, using all of their tools at their disposal, their genius, their experience to prove that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians, and they can’t find anything. They haven’t spent commensurate time to look at who was unmasking individuals. That may come out from the House Intelligence committee.”
    Even the Washington Post’s most accomplished and famous reporter, Bob Woodard, has warned the media about losing their objectivity by “binge drinking the anti-Trump Kool-Aid,” and advised them to “Stick to the reporting.”
    Speaking on MSNBC Friday, Woodward observed, “One of the realities we have here is we have a good, old newspaper war going, the New York Times and the Washington Post and some very powerful stories.”
    image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/02/blo...rd-300x180.jpg
    Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward
    “At the same time, I think it’s time to dial back a little bit because there are people around … who are kind of binge drinking the anti-Trump Kool-Aid. And that is not going to work in journalism. Let the politicians have that binge drinking.”
    Perhaps Woodward has been sobered recently by the sensational anti-Trump stories coming from his own newspaper that have turned out to be not true.
    On May 10, the Post reported that FBI Director James Comey had requested more resources for the Russia investigation shortly before he was fired by the president.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/how-left-...vZ8dEtQEVh7.99

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/how-left-...vZ8dEtQEVh7.99

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    Re: Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    lol. Russia is scary. If they were a state, they'd have the 4th largest GDP in the US!

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    Re: Russia

    How do you send Don Jr to the calusadoption meeting? You know he's gonna screw it up. Come on Manafort!

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