Russia

[johnnylightnin]

He's simply making the point that the things you hear on the mainstream media these days is nothing more than pure propaganda, and that perhaps you shouldn't so readily believe the lies that they're trying to feed to all of us. It isn't a Democrat/Republican thing. It isn't even a conservative/liberal thing. It's a DC establishment/deep state thing. The election of President Trump has those entities scared chitless and on the run. The media keeps ratcheting up its level of Trump hate with each passing day because more and more truth keeps coming out about just how corrupt DC has become.

It's amazing to see how things have flip-flopped 180 degrees since I was a child in the 60's. Back then, young, idealistic, liberal students demonstrated against the establishment while middle aged conservative white guys ran the show in DC. Today it's the liberty loving middle age and senior citizen patriots that are done the corrupt A-holes in DC and it's us who are fighting to take down the establishment. More and more young people are starting to open their eyes to truth though. The corrupt establishment/deep state won't survive this revolution that's taking place.

Nah. You see, Don knows I went to seminary. He has a major ax to grind against organized religion. He is under the impression that I’m a preacher (even though I am not and have never been...and I have let him know this more than a few times).

So Don believes that preachers are professional liars who are knowingly deceiving people. He disagrees with my politics, so instead of interacting with what I post,he tells me to go preach a sermon.

Don has beautifully illustrated confirmation bias. Despite his immense success, he is exactly what I was referring to.

Thanks Don!

[DawgyNWindow]

His vacuum of leadership had only served in making our country weaker.

Actually, we have some leadership for the first time in 8 years.

He is still cleaning up ISIS, NK nuke issue, bad Iranian "agreements" that never passed Congressional oversight and renogiating trade deals (trying to kick start our manufacturing bases again) in our best interests.

Would you like him to nuke Russia when he is finished with all of those things? You are very predictable.

[Guisslapp]

Actually, we have some leadership for the first time in 8 years.

He is still cleaning up ISIS, NK nuke issue, bad Iranian "agreements" that never passed Congressional oversight and renogiating trade deals (trying to kick start our manufacturing bases again) in our best interests.

Would you like him to nuke Russia when he is finished with all of those things? You are very predictable.

Why is he avoiding the Russia issue? Why is he not leading an effort to prevent future interference?

[Guisslapp]

We are under attack and he is AWOL.

[techman05]

But the most important question is this: given that we are under attack by the Russians, when is Trump going to acknowledge the attack and show some leadership in responding to it?

His vacuum of leadership had only served in making our country weaker.

On your previous question, I guess we all see news and rely on corroborated accounts from different and even opposing sources to know it’s true.

On the above point, I completely agree that it is time de action, on many issues. The time for talking and tweeting is passed.

[DawgyNWindow]

Why is he avoiding the Russia issue? Why is he not leading an effort to prevent future interference?

I think with all the accusations about him and Russia, he likely has Russia fatigue.

He is probably also wondering why it is such a big issue now when it wasn't in the previous election when they were doing the same thing. The only difference is that he won this time and Obama won in the previous election.

Suddenly it's a big deal when "the chosen one" loses.

Yes, we should address Russia meddling in our elections, but that is not the biggest threat to our democracy. We should also address China stealing intellectual property and dumping products in America and killing our manufacturing base. Address NK building nukes with the expressed intent of being able to hit American cities with them.

The meddling in this last election started 13 months before Trump even got into the race, and it wasn't a big deal then for Obama or Comey or anyone else, but now it should be priority number one? They covered it up because they thought the election was in the bag.

My guess is that Trump will do something about it, but not until this whole plot to take down the results of the last election are over. I think if I were president I would do the same.

[Guisslapp]

Regarding “Russia fatigue”, it has got to be tiring to be the only person in the US government arguing that Russia is fake news and a hoax against all evidence to the contrary for over a year.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Regarding “Russia fatigue”, it has got to be tiring to be the only person in the US government arguing that Russia is fake news and a hoax against all evidence to the contrary for over a year.

Obama, Hillary, Kerry thought it "fake news" and never dealt with it per elections. In fact we still might find they colluded the Russians agents and just got outsmarted and hoodwinked.

But it was truly "Fake News" per any Trump collusion. However, we may find out that Hillary and Obama colluded with Russia behind the scenes.

[Guisslapp]

Obama, Hillary, Kerry thought it "fake news" and never dealt with it per elections. In fact we still might find they colluded the Russians agents and just got outsmarted and hoodwinked.

But it was truly "Fake News" per any Trump collusion. However, we may find out that Hillary and Obama colluded with Russia behind the scenes.

At least the Obama administration figured out that it was a problem and initiated an investigation. We can all agree they didn’t do enough. If they would have come out and at least announced what Russia was doing, maybe Trump would have been defeated.

So far Trump has ignored it. He has even refused to impose the sanctions that had universal bipartisan support. He has been so absent on this issue, it makes me wonder if he has actually been compromised. Why else would he not come out and condemn Russia?

[Guisslapp]

So what are the Russians up to now? Well after pushing the #releasethememo campaign, they are now pushing the #deepstate campaign. Be on the lookout for Russia propaganda!

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...p-state-395928

[TYLERTECHSAS]

So what are the Russians up to now?

They're getting bombed by Mr. Pro-Russia Trump and the US Military.

US-led forces 'kill dozens of Russians' with Syria air strikes in first such ...

www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Middle East
5 days ago - US-led forces 'kill dozens of Russians' with Syria air strikes in first such deadly clash between the two powers. Moscow remains silent on deaths as fighting .... Video shows the moment a bomb hits a building in Syria as new onslaught causes mass civilian casualties. The Pentagon says it is in constant ...



US Bombs Russian-Made T-72 Tank in Syria | Military.com

www.military.com/video/operations-and.../us-bombs-russian...t.../5733011312001
5 days ago - The U.S. Air Force conducts an air strike on a T-72 tank in Syria in defense of Syrian Democratic forces. (DVIDS)



U.S. Military Bombs Russian Tank in Video From Syria Attack on ...

www.newsweek.com/us-military-bombs-russian-tank-video-syria-attack-assad-support...
5 days ago - The U.S. military destroyed a Russia-built tank, following a recent attack on forces supportive of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad that also claimed the lives of Russian fighters. The U.S.-led coalition tasked with defeating the Islamic State militant group said Wednesday its partnered Syrian Democratic ...

[TYLERTECHSAS]

[techman05]

Hhmmm, that sure looks like a move that would be made by a guy who loves Putin.

[brtransplant]

Why is he avoiding the Russia issue? Why is he not leading an effort to prevent future interference?

The president hasn't avoided anything. It's simply that he knows that the Russian interference story is total BS. Sure the Russians meddled in our election, just like the US meddles in elections all the time too. Every non-third world country in the world does. It's nothing new. The Mueller indictments of those Russians is merely smoke and mirrors in a feeble attempt to make his investigation seem legitimate, which it isn't. Mueller's investigation is nothing more than an organized attempt by the deep state to oust President Trump and EVERYONE sees it for what it is. Even the democrat voters see through this BS.

[brtransplant]

At least the Obama administration figured out that it was a problem and initiated an investigation. We can all agree they didn’t do enough. If they would have come out and at least announced what Russia was doing, maybe Trump would have been defeated.

So far Trump has ignored it. He has even refused to impose the sanctions that had universal bipartisan support. He has been so absent on this issue, it makes me wonder if he has actually been compromised. Why else would he not come out and condemn Russia?

You're delusional. Your Trump hate has made you totally incapable of rational thought when it comes to the president.