Russia

[Guisslapp]

Perhaps you missed it, but it's come to light that the DOJ under the Obama administration didn't give a damn about DOJ rules. Hell, the criminals running it didn't give a damn about the law itself. Only complete idiots and fools still believe political bias didn't exist in Obama's DOJ.

Political bias exists everywhere. You have political bias, too. Does that make you incapable of doing your job unfairly?

The DOJ has rules that help prevent political bias from influencing the work they do. Those rules include not factoring in the personal politics of the DOJ employees when making assignments. If the DOJ were allowed to do that, it would make it a political agency, which Trump has had to learn the hard way that it is not. He can appoint whomever he wants to run it and he can change their enforcement policies, but he cannot bend it to his will. At the end of the day, it will conduct its business apolotically.

[dawg80]

You are so quick to dismiss political bias when it's lefties guilty of it. Let's try this scenario...

a VERY outspoken KKK leader is in some government position. We learn he is in the KKK because some of his emails are leaked. His government position gives him control/influence over people getting some benefits...including African Americans. He says, yeah I harbor some extreme political views, but I have never allowed those views to influence how I do my job.

What do you think the reaction is gonna be? You can go first, goosey....

[DawgyNWindow]

You are so quick to dismiss political bias when it's lefties guilty of it. Let's try this scenario...

a VERY outspoken KKK leader is in some government position. We learn he is in the KKK because some of his emails are leaked. His government position gives him control/influence over people getting some benefits...including African Americans. He says, yeah I harbor some extreme political views, but I have never allowed those views to influence how I do my job.

What do you think the reaction is gonna be? You can go first, goosey....

Excellent comparison.

And like in this case, we actually have a paper trail and proof that African Americans and Jewish folks were denied benefits after meeting all the requirements and going through all the necessary procedures to get them but a bunch of white racists were given the benefit of the doubt early in their application process and given benefits almost immediately.

But he didn't brag to this friends about what he was doing, which is a great indication that he did not let his own prejudices get in the way of him doing his job.

[Guisslapp]

You are so quick to dismiss political bias when it's lefties guilty of it. Let's try this scenario...

a VERY outspoken KKK leader is in some government position. We learn he is in the KKK because some of his emails are leaked. His government position gives him control/influence over people getting some benefits...including African Americans. He says, yeah I harbor some extreme political views, but I have never allowed those views to influence how I do my job.

What do you think the reaction is gonna be? You can go first, goosey....

Strzok was properly canned for private texts which reflected negatively on his ability to do his job impartially. An “outspoken” clansman poses the same issue.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

You are so quick to dismiss political bias when it's lefties guilty of it. Let's try this scenario...

a VERY outspoken KKK leader is in some government position. We learn he is in the KKK because some of his emails are leaked. His government position gives him control/influence over people getting some benefits...including African Americans. He says, yeah I harbor some extreme political views, but I have never allowed those views to influence how I do my job.

What do you think the reaction is gonna be? You can go first, goosey....

Exactly and that Dem. double standard example, that went on for decades with this individual, goes on today in a huge way.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Strzok was properly canned for private texts which reflected negatively on his ability to do his job impartially.

And there are more to come.

[dawg80]

Yes, and we now know for sure that it was that same political bias that led to the FBI running with the fake dossier (Steele's). It doesn't matter, in this case, if the FBI leadership, Comey et al knew the dossier was fake (which they did) or if they just hoped it was all true because they wanted so desperately to deny Trump the presidency. Their political bias has led to this "witch hunt." It's a LOT MORE than just some love-struck libtards emailing their personal bias against Trump.

In some ways, it's the same as the whole obummer birth certificate thing. It was the political bias of some who grasped at any straws they could find because they wanted so much to find a cause to have obummer dismissed from office. I certainly shared the desire to have the worst POTUS in history booted from office, but I never bought into the whole "birther" movement.

BTW, as an aside to all of that, someone should have been charged with tampering with official documents...on obummer's defense side! Probably no more than a misdemeanor, but a crime nonetheless. The AG in Hawaii was asked about it, and he quickly dismissed it because he supported the effort to cover for obummer.


For the record, I was never a birther. I always thought obummer was born in Hawaii. Lousy commies can be born in Hawaii too.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

FBI counterspies under fire after disclosures of politicization...

Congress investigating agents for evidence tampering in Russia case...

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Of course the liberal Dems want to forget about phony Russian collusion (other than Hillary's and the DNC) xo it hasn't been in the news much until these tidbits.

Comey intervened to kill WIKILEAKS immunity deal...

Trump calls for hearing of demoted FBI agent Peter Strzok to air on live television

• DOJ rebuffs Nunes request for more info on Russia case informants

• Republicans ask Rosenstein for names of everyone working on Mueller probe

• Trump pressures DOJ, FBI over documents on Russia case informant
• IG confirms he is reviewing whether Strzok's anti-Trump bias impacted launch of Russia probe

[Guisslapp]

"The Committee has spent the last 16 months reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work underpinning the Intelligence Community Assessment and sees no reason to dispute the conclusions," Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr said in a statement, reiterating what he had initially said in May.

The committee said that the intelligence community assessment relied on public Russian leadership commentary, Russian state media reports, public examples where Russian interests aligned with US candidate policy statements, and "a body of intelligence reporting to support the assessment that Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for Trump."

The Senate summary noted there were different confidence levels between the National Security Agency and the CIA and FBI about whether Putin and the Russian government were aspiring to help Trump; the CIA and FBI assessed with "high confidence" and the NSA with "moderate confidence." But the committee wrote that its examination found that "the analytical disagreement was reasonable, transparent, and openly debated among the agencies and analysts, with analysts, managers, and agency heads on both sides of the confidence level articulately justifying their positions."
"In all the interviews of those who drafted and prepared the ICA, the committee heard consistently that analysts were under no politically motivated pressure to reach any conclusions," the committee wrote. "All analysts expressed that they were free to debate, object to content, and assess confidence levels, as is normal and proper for the analytic process."

Obviously a big difference between the House Republican “investigation” and the bipartisan investigation of the more respected Senate. House Republicans have abdicated their responsibilities and need to take their jobs a little more seriously.

[DawgyNWindow]

"The Committee has spent the last 16 months reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work underpinning the Intelligence Community Assessment and sees no reason to dispute the conclusions," Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr said in a statement, reiterating what he had initially said in May.

The committee said that the intelligence community assessment relied on public Russian leadership commentary, Russian state media reports, public examples where Russian interests aligned with US candidate policy statements, and "a body of intelligence reporting to support the assessment that Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for Trump."

The Senate summary noted there were different confidence levels between the National Security Agency and the CIA and FBI about whether Putin and the Russian government were aspiring to help Trump; the CIA and FBI assessed with "high confidence" and the NSA with "moderate confidence." But the committee wrote that its examination found that "the analytical disagreement was reasonable, transparent, and openly debated among the agencies and analysts, with analysts, managers, and agency heads on both sides of the confidence level articulately justifying their positions."
"In all the interviews of those who drafted and prepared the ICA, the committee heard consistently that analysts were under no politically motivated pressure to reach any conclusions," the committee wrote. "All analysts expressed that they were free to debate, object to content, and assess confidence levels, as is normal and proper for the analytic process."

Obviously a big difference between the House Republican “investigation” and the bipartisan investigation of the more respected Senate. House Republicans have abdicated their responsibilities and need to take their jobs a little more seriously.

This is just more silliness. The House reached pretty much the same conclusions months ago.

I thought the issue was not to show the Russians preferred one candidate over the other, but to show that the Trump campaign "colluded" with the Russians. Not that that would even matter because such collusion would not be illegal anyway.

My guess is that the Canadians and Mexicans favored Clinton, as did Germany (the one that started TWO world wars). Iran likely favored Clinton as well. She would continue to be their patsy and allow them all to take advantage of us and, in the case of Iran, support the terrorists that would continue to wreak havoc in Syria and Iraq. So what?

Does it surprise me that Russia attempted to influence our elections? Of course not. Much like we attempt to influence the elections and political outcomes in other nations. Ever heard of "voice of America" or "Radio Free Europe" or many of the other CIA/US Congress funded programs aimed at spreading American/European influence? Or did you just now become aware of this kind of "globalism" because of Russia? Heck, I do believe Obama got caught with his hand in the cookie jar trying to influence the elections in Israel.

You continue to act like this was a major (even minor) factor in the election. This is not even a new development. It's just another excuse and talking point by folks still angry about the outcome of a free and fair election.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

No news here Guisslapp.

That's been happening forever, Obama's term for sure, and in this case Obama knew about it per our 2016 election and did nothing. The Russians hated Hillary even though they smoked her on her "Russian restart" and her "uranium deal". And Obama did the same while trying to influence Israel's election due to personal grievances against Bibi. Payback is a bitch I guess and Obama, Kerry,Hillary and the socialist Dems got chumped again as always. Of course America took it in the rear in the uranium deal.

No news here Guisslapp.

[DawgyNWindow]

Of course, there is nothing to see here:

After Trump’s electoral victory, Russian cyber operations began focusing on “fomenting discord about the validity of [Trump’s] election,” Facebook general counsel Colin Stretch told a Senate Judiciary panel on Tuesday. Sean Edgett, general counsel for Twitter, offered a similar assessment.
“During the election, they were trying to create discord between Americans, most of it directed against Clinton. After the election you saw Russian-tied groups and organizations trying to undermine President Trump’s legitimacy. Is that what you saw on Facebook?” South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham asked Edgett and Stretch, Politico reported. Both Edgett and Stretch characterized Graham’s remark as “accurate.”

I suspect most of this "resist" movement is either funded by a guy that profited from stealing things from Jewish people in concentration camps during the second world war or by foreign actors (Russia probably the worst of the bunch) to attempt to rip at the fabric of America.

Guisslap and others are willingly colluding with the Russians to destroy America. There, now I sound like Adam Schiff,

[dawg80]

Okay, okay....I can't stand it anymore! My guilty conscious is killing me. I accepted payment to vote for Trump, from some Russian agent named Dennis...I suspect that is not his real name....he paid in me rubles. I was thrilled, until I learned they were Soviet rubles totally worthless, and pretty much worthless when first issued in 1930's, which these were all dated. I was gonna vote for Ms. Hillary Rodman Clinton, but who could pass on rubles!? Dennis told me he alone had changed enough votes to change the outcome in 10 states, including Florida and Michigan. And his accomplice, Natasha....that does sound Ruskie...had influenced the outcome in another 7 states.

So, it's true...it's true....the Ruskies influenced the election!!! The truth shall set you free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel so much better for having confessed this. And! here's the best part...those worthless rubles were not worthless after all....some collector paid me $1,700 for 'em!

Okay, goosey, you win. You were right all along.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

The clowns stays on our American hard-earned taxpayer payroll.

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