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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    The catcher and the plate umpire have to be on the same page. I rely on that catcher to protect me. I rely on that catcher to catch the baseball and give me a good look of where it crossed and ended up. A catcher that can't do those simple things, or argues balls and strikes, is doing his pitcher no favors. He's not going to get the benefit of the doubt on any close pitch.
    So if his pitcher is continually getting a raw deal in a game he's just supposed to say "Way to Go, Ump!"
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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    The catcher and the plate umpire have to be on the same page. I rely on that catcher to protect me. I rely on that catcher to catch the baseball and give me a good look of where it crossed and ended up. A catcher that can't do those simple things, or argues balls and strikes, is doing his pitcher no favors. He's not going to get the benefit of the doubt on any close pitch.
    I have seen Diaz multiple times do the right thing when an umpire takes a shot from a foul ball. He calls time out and goes to talk to his pitcher. This was also the same time that we did not have a complaint with the consistency of the strike zone.

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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    The catcher and the plate umpire have to be on the same page. I rely on that catcher to protect me. I rely on that catcher to catch the baseball and give me a good look of where it crossed and ended up. A catcher that can't do those simple things, or argues balls and strikes, is doing his pitcher no favors. He's not going to get the benefit of the doubt on any close pitch.
    And it's the umpire's job to have a consistent strike zone. The umpire the other night was all over the place. I was sitting directly behind home plate. Some of Nate Harris's pitches that were called balls were right down the middle of the plate. That's what created the controversy.

    You seem to be crticizing Diaz in a backhanded way. What he did was exactly what he should have done under the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    And it's the umpire's job to have a consistent strike zone. The umpire the other night was all over the place. I was sitting directly behind home plate. Some of Nate Harris's pitches that were called balls were right down the middle of the plate. That's what created the controversy.

    You seem to be crticizing Diaz in a backhanded way. What he did was exactly what he should have done under the circumstances.
    if you are on this board long enough, you know Tech is always wrong in theprofessor's mind.

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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    "benefit of the doubt on any close pitch"? How do you give "benefit of the doubt" for either pitcher? That would be bias.

    If you are an ump and have a doubt about a pitch before you make the call, then you need to start looking for another profession. You define your strike zone and stick with it, to the best of your ability.

    If you are an ump and give one pitcher the benefit of the doubt on close pitches, then you are problem and need to quit immediately.

    No matter how the catcher, pitcher, batter, coach or any player are acting toward you, you owe it to your profession and yourself to continue to make the best calls you can.
    If you can't then you need to stop ump'ing.

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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by DJDAWG View Post
    "benefit of the doubt on any close pitch"? How do you give "benefit of the doubt" for either pitcher? That would be bias.

    If you are an ump and have a doubt about a pitch before you make the call, then you need to start looking for another profession. You define your strike zone and stick with it, to the best of your ability.

    If you are an ump and give one pitcher the benefit of the doubt on close pitches, then you are problem and need to quit immediately.

    No matter how the catcher, pitcher, batter, coach or any player are acting toward you, you owe it to your profession and yourself to continue to make the best calls you can.
    If you can't then you need to stop ump'ing.
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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by theprofessor View Post
    The catcher and the plate umpire have to be on the same page. I rely on that catcher to protect me. I rely on that catcher to catch the baseball and give me a good look of where it crossed and ended up. A catcher that can't do those simple things, or argues balls and strikes, is doing his pitcher no favors. He's not going to get the benefit of the doubt on any close pitch.
    That's the biggest crock of crap I've ever heard. The catcher is supposed to protect the umpire! I guess my coach forgot to tell me that.

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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    According to the UL-Lafayette fans the entire crew were Cajun graduates.
    Well... I was skeptical....

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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    When the catcher and the ump are on the same page the catcher will frame close pitches that are called strikes to "protect the ump". Maybe that's what professor means. Saying that, it was so bad that ther were no close call strikes for him to "protect the ump" but there were plenty of good pitches called balls by the ump.

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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Forrest Gump's Facebook page is full of ULL love. No way he should be calling their games.
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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by Dowty View Post
    It's not the umpire's job to be subjective and get his panties in a wad if someone doesn't like what he's doing. His job is to call a fair game and be consistent. It's not all on the catcher.
    Turns out two of the BBB posters may be the worst umpires ever in the history of umpires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde View Post
    Turns out two of the BBB posters may be the worst umpires ever in the history of umpires.
    Who, me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dowty View Post
    Who, me?
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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by DocMarvin362 View Post
    So Hargroder is the assignment secretary for UL-Lafayette!

    My best guess is that as the visiting team the Cajuns could assign the crew. Hargroder was then given that responsibility. But instead of making a few calls to find a neutral crew, he called a few friends in Lafayette Parish, and they all drove up together.

    Putting that crew together was just a bad idea. A series of controversial calls could put the spotlight on the crew. And sure enough...

    Also, Tech77 is right. Forrest Ladd should not be calling UL-Lafayette games.

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    Re: Umpires vs. UL-Lafayette - all Cajun grads

    Quote Originally Posted by DocMarvin362 View Post
    3rd base ump was Colby Vidrine... another ULL grad.

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