Fixing C-USA RPI

[sportdawg]

As has been mentioned in the past, I think the conference needs to implement an RPI improvement plan. Each year, schools should be required to replace their bottom 3 RPI (3-4 year rolling average) with games against teams with higher RPI (50 or 100 higher). Games from early season tournaments (MTE) would not be restricted, except that schools should try their best to schedule quality tournaments. Schools would be strongly encouraged not to schedule teams with RPIs below 200 (unless it was an historical rivalry game).

I think there should be a penalty for not implementing- withholding a certain portion of basketball distribution.

RPI		SOS Rank
35	Middle Tenn. St.	152
112	Marshall	123
117	Louisiana Tech	246
136	Old Dominion	182
168	Rice	288
198	UAB	190
222	UTEP	204
226	W. Kentucky	266
243	Charlotte	223
264	UTSA	277
282	Florida Atlantic	228
331	Southern Miss	279
337	Florida Intl.	250
339	North Texas	281

Let's Look at Tech's OOC schedule (w/o MTE).

South Carolina	43	Keep scheduling 2 $ games - preferably from closer SEC/Big 12 schools
Alabama St.	342	Replace H/H or Buy H with Southland Team: SFA, UNO,
Nebraska	108	Keep scheduling 2 $ games - preferably from closer SEC/Big 12 schools
La Lafayet.	114	Keep this home/home going - ULL usually has decent RPI (15/16: 156; 14/15: 142; 13/14: 88; 12/13: 221; 11/12: 184)
Prairie View A&M	307	H/H with MVC, OVC, or Southern: (32) Wichita St; (33) Illinois St; (60) Belmont; (55) E Tennessee St;
Grambling St.	318	Replace with another Florida team H/H or Sun Belt H/H or BUY H: (45) UTA, (120) Ark State
Fla Gulf Coast	85	Keep this home/home going - we have lots of recruits from Florida. Think we need to add a second FLA game to save on travel cost. Maybe UCF/USF (neither have historically great RPI) Maybe partner with USM so teams can play 2 games (this has been brought up in past). Needs to be in years we don't travel to FIU/FAU.
Early Season	MD Eastern Shore 278 California 53 SE Louisiana 249 Alcorn St. 228	Keep scheduling tourneys where we get 2 to 3 home games. Preferably like the Cancun Tourney 2 neutral games vs: (76) Fresno State, (103) George Mason or (188) Evansville 2 home games vs.: Binghamton, (313) CS-Northridge, (254) Montana State, (274) SE Missouri St

[tenacious_dog]

Thanks for posting that.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Let's Look at Tech's OOC schedule (w/o MTE).

South Carolina	43	Keep scheduling 2 $ games - preferably from closer SEC/Big 12 schools
Alabama St.	342	Replace H/H or Buy H with Southland Team: SFA, UNO,
Nebraska	108	Keep scheduling 2 $ games - preferably from closer SEC/Big 12 schools
La Lafayet.	114	Keep this home/home going - ULL usually has decent RPI (15/16: 156; 14/15: 142; 13/14: 88; 12/13: 221; 11/12: 184)
Prairie View A&M	307	H/H with MVC, OVC, or Southern: (32) Wichita St; (33) Illinois St; (60) Belmont; (55) E Tennessee St;
Grambling St.	318	Replace with another Florida team H/H or Sun Belt H/H or BUY H: (45) UTA, (120) Ark State
Fla Gulf Coast	85	Keep this home/home going - we have lots of recruits from Florida. Think we need to add a second FLA game to save on travel cost. Maybe UCF/USF (neither have historically great RPI) Maybe partner with USM so teams can play 2 games (this has been brought up in past). Needs to be in years we don't travel to FIU/FAU.
Early Season	MD Eastern Shore 278 California 53 SE Louisiana 249 Alcorn St. 228	Keep scheduling tourneys where we get 2 to 3 home games. Preferably like the Cancun Tourney 2 neutral games vs: (76) Fresno State, (103) George Mason or (188) Evansville 2 home games vs.: Binghamton, (313) CS-Northridge, (254) Montana State, (274) SE Missouri St

That's the ONLY way it can be fixed -

I know folks don't like the idea of playing the Cajuns but it doesn't bother me

I would only play Grambling out of the SWAC and only in Ruston (or we can rotate ULM and NWST in Ruston only)

I would also throw UALR in the mix and ORU maybe GA State, NMST, Mizz St, Winthrop, Belmont and Jacksonville St for H/H - basically all top 150 rpis

I know they are not NAME basketball schools that some of our folks THINK we should get, but they are good solid programs and if we get the W's they can hopefully help off set our bad conference SOS

[OLDBLUE]

If we need to do it, good. We should.

But, I personally don't like the idea of the conference deciding who or what we should schedule. Guidelines or goals, fine, but holding us hostage, not so much.
If others care to suck mud, sooner or later "cream" will be identified and opportunities will come.

[Dwayne From Minden]

If we need to do it, good. We should.

But, I personally don't like the idea of the conference deciding who or what we should schedule. Guidelines or goals, fine, but holding us hostage, not so much.
If others care to suck mud, sooner or later "cream" will be identified and opportunities will come.

The ONLY thing we can some what control is our OOC (sometimes we have to take the games we can get) -

So we can improve ours

Hard to dictate you have to replace X 200+ rpi school on your schedule if that school loses a HOME game in the process

Only 4 of 14 CUSA schools had a SOS better that 200 - so this is NOT just a La Tech issue

[PawDawg]

I'm fine with playing LaLaff in MBB if our coach tries to win the game. No White didn't either.

[PawDawg]

Questions...

- Does the NCAA require EOY conference tournaments?

- How much revenue is C-USA reporting to be made from the MBB tournament if any?

- How much will C-USA pick up for having an extra game in the NCAA tournament? (not a 1 and done)

Rather than discuss where the tournament is held, the discussion needs to be about the loss conference of revenue from having a tournament.

[zharkins]

Questions...

- Does the NCAA require EOY conference tournaments?
NO. THE IVY LEAGUE AVOIDED IT FOR YEARS BUT HAD A 4 TEAM PLAYOFF THIS YEAR.

- How much revenue is C-USA reporting to be made from the MBB tournament if any?
SHOULD BE 11 CREDITS, SO PROBABLY CLOSE TO $3 MILLION PER SEASON
2011 - 2 (MEMPHIS & UAB)
2012 - 2 (MEMPHIS & SOUTHERN MISS)
2013 - 2 (MEMPHIS)
2014 - 1 (TULSA)
2015 - 2 (UAB)
2016 - 2 (MTSU)

- How much will C-USA pick up for having an extra game in the NCAA tournament? (not a 1 and done)
CLOSE TO $300,000 PER SEASON FOR 6 YEARS FOR EACH ADDITIONAL GAME PLAYED OVER THE 1 PER CONFERENCE MINIMUM.

[Tech52]

Questions...

- Does the NCAA require EOY conference tournaments?

- How much revenue is C-USA reporting to be made from the MBB tournament if any?

- How much will C-USA pick up for having an extra game in the NCAA tournament? (not a 1 and done)

Rather than discuss where the tournament is held, the discussion needs to be about the loss conference of revenue from having a tournament.

At least he did last year

[PawDawg]

Thanks, but my second question was how much does C-USA make from having the EOY tournament? It should be public information. I'm guessing none to be distributed among the member schools like the tournament units from the NCAA.

No telling how much we lose by having a WBB EOY tournament.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Questions...

- Does the NCAA require EOY conference tournaments?
NO. THE IVY LEAGUE AVOIDED IT FOR YEARS BUT HAD A 4 TEAM PLAYOFF THIS YEAR.

- How much revenue is C-USA reporting to be made from the MBB tournament if any?
SHOULD BE 11 CREDITS, SO PROBABLY CLOSE TO $3 MILLION PER SEASON
2011 - 2 (MEMPHIS & UAB)
2012 - 2 (MEMPHIS & SOUTHERN MISS)
2013 - 2 (MEMPHIS)
2014 - 1 (TULSA)
2015 - 2 (UAB)
2016 - 2 (MTSU)

- How much will C-USA pick up for having an extra game in the NCAA tournament? (not a 1 and done)
CLOSE TO $300,000 PER SEASON FOR 6 YEARS FOR EACH ADDITIONAL GAME PLAYED OVER THE 1 PER CONFERENCE MINIMUM.

I think he meant from the C-UAB tourney...

[sportdawg]

- How much will C-USA pick up for having an extra game in the NCAA tournament? (not a 1 and done)

Last years units were $265,000 - (x 6 = an extra $1.59 million)

[PawDawg]

I suppose we should consider the ADs and their staffs along with the cracker jack C-USA bunch will not be wined and dined for an entire week if we get rid of the conference tournament($).

[Dwayne From Minden]

I think we need the conference tourney, but I think it can be done in a fashion that protects the #1 seed and be much more cost effective

I heard Walk-ons catered the MEDIA/Courtesy room at the Sunbelt Conference Tourney for over $60k - I imagine that CUAB had a similar set-up with probably the same cost or more...

[sportdawg]

Would it save the conference money to have the tournament at school sites? Split the league into East/West.
You could have all teams play with 1 seeds receiving bye.

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