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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Interesting;

    "In other words, Fox News is only one part, albeit a major part, of this echo chamber. Again, the left has its own, smaller version—on MSNBC, for example. But it’s less influential, because it competes with news outlets like the New York Times and, yes, the Wall Street Journal. If you want to know why liberals seem to have a better grasp on many issues, that’s why. "

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by frogdog View Post
    Statically speaking liberals believe in taking from me and giving to someone else whether they worked for it or not, are socialist and communist do not believe in capitalism or personal accountability (unless someone is eating to much sugar or smoking). There are plenty of countries that believe like that please move there and leave us our capitalism.
    I am very capitalist. But I don't believe in deficit spending. What the House passed for their tax bill is not self funding. It doesn't pay for itself with growth so that raises deficits.

    The problem with deficits is that, the bill becomes due at some point in the future and carries other costs - namely, interest, which is paid in the future.

    So conservatives do believe in taking from others apparently - they are just stealing from their children and grandchildren instead of from their neighhors.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    I pulled all of those of the top of my head from the era of Obama's "scandal-free" administration.

    I'm the one who is in the real news universe. You are in DIMM land way past your eyeballs for someone falsely claiming to be independent.
    Oh, I know.

    I know lots of FoxNews watchers that regurgitate that same list.

    Do you watch Hannity?

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    ...if you want to know why liberals seem to have a better grasp on many issues, that’s why. "
    Liberal socialst, democrats believe the lies regarding Obamacare. Your favorite news sources including CNN have been lying about that program from day 1.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Your favorite news sources including CNN have been lying about that program from day 1.
    Evidence?

    Do you watch CNN?

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Interesting;

    "If you want to know why liberals seem to have a better grasp on many issues, that’s why. "
    Your statement is liberalism in a nutshell. Liberals do seem to think they know it all.

    You seem to know better than I how to spend my hard earned money. You seem to know better than I as to which charity I should give. You seem to know better than I how I should think. You seem to know better than I what I should say. You seem to know better than I how I should say it. You seem to know better than I what pronouns I should use. You seem to know better than I what I should eat. You seem to know better than I where I should send my children to school. You seem to know better than I how to discipline my children. You seem to know better than I what courses my children should take. You seem to know better than I what history I should learn. You seem to know better than I how I should interpret history. You seem to know better than I how I should pay for my health care. You seem to know better than I what car I should drive. You seem to know better than I whether I should believe in and follow Jesus Christ. You seem to know better than I with what and how I should defend myself. You seem to know better than I how I should use my property. You seem to know better than I how I should treat my wife. You seem to know better than I with whom I should associate. You seem to know better than I how much I should pay my employees. You seem to know better than I what I should call a human sporting a penis. You seem to know better than I who I should share a bathroom with.

    "Seem" is the operative word. It is subjective. To you it "seems" you know it all. To me you are just a meddling liberal who seems to think he knows more than he does.
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Now you're getting it, Sooner. After you adhere to a 1,000+ libtard edicts on how you should live your life, why, you are then free to live your life as you see fit.

    Simple, eh.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Interesting;

    "In other words, Fox News is only one part, albeit a major part, of this echo chamber. Again, the left has its own, smaller version—on MSNBC, for example. But it’s less influential, because it competes with news outlets like the New York Times and, yes, the Wall Street Journal. If you want to know why liberals seem to have a better grasp on many issues, that’s why. "
    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Liberal socialst, democrats believe the lies regarding Obamacare. Your favorite news sources including CNN have been lying about that program from day 1.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    Your statement is liberalism in a nutshell. Liberals do seem to think they know it all.

    You seem to know better than I how to spend my hard earned money. You seem to know better than I as to which charity I should give. You seem to know better than I how I should think. You seem to know better than I what I should say. You seem to know better than I how I should say it. You seem to know better than I what pronouns I should use. You seem to know better than I what I should eat. You seem to know better than I where I should send my children to school. You seem to know better than I how to discipline my children. You seem to know better than I what courses my children should take. You seem to know better than I what history I should learn. You seem to know better than I how I should interpret history. You seem to know better than I how I should pay for my health care. You seem to know better than I what car I should drive. You seem to know better than I whether I should believe in and follow Jesus Christ. You seem to know better than I with what and how I should defend myself. You seem to know better than I how I should use my property. You seem to know better than I how I should treat my wife. You seem to know better than I with whom I should associate. You seem to know better than I how much I should pay my employees. You seem to know better than I what I should call a human sporting a penis. You seem to know better than I who I should share a bathroom with.

    "Seem" is the operative word. It is subjective. To you it "seems" you know it all. To me you are just a meddling liberal who seems to think he knows more than he does.
    Pure Liberalism is a true mental illness.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Statistically you right wingers are less likely to even read the article I posted breaking down the studies on the subject or,if you do, to entirely discount it since it doesn't come from your echo chamber.
    You missed my point. I will put it on the bottom shelf for you.

    You accuse conservatives of not thinking. Instead they sound like an "echo chamber" repeating whatever is spoon feed to them by conservative media.

    So, did Mr. Cut and Past originate the term "echo chamber" of the right or did Mr. Cut and Paste just cut and paste once more.

    Well, well, well, who is echoing the echo chamber now?

    https://newrepublic.com/article/1199...watch-fox-news

    If the left persists, they will come to regret this "echo chamber" mantra just as they came to regret "fake news." You might check in the mirror for that board in your eye.
    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    What cracks me up is all these Trumpers posting here (they not really fiscal conservatives) are sucking on the public tit just as much if not more than the poor and huddled masses that they disdain. As far as their views on social behavior, it all comes back to their religious beliefs and their view that the whole society should kowtow to those beliefs.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    What cracks me up is all these Trumpers posting here (they not really fiscal conservatives) are sucking on the public tit just as much if not more than the poor and huddled masses that they disdain. As far as their views on social behavior, it all comes back to their religious beliefs and their view that the whole society should kowtow to those beliefs.
    Salty, I would love to know how you are able to determine the level of suction on the public teat by those on this board and the level of disdain toward the poor and huddled masses. I would say that neither liberal or conservative hold disdain for the poor, but simply hold differing beliefs as to how to help. Your apparent attitude, shared by many on both sides, is the prime cause for the idealogical divide in the country that is at best bordering on toxic.

    Guiss, I realize Olbermann is not the president nor a holder of office, but I do question if your disdain for Trump campaign rhetoric is warranted to Mr. Olbermann here

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    As one who is gainfullly employed and requires/receives $0 in public assistance, you aren't talking about me, salty.

    And it is funny for devoted DIMMs to be talking about beliefs of any kind. The only thing I see from devoted DIMMs are anti-beliefs, particularly anarchy and agnosticism.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by atobulldog View Post
    Salty, I would love to know how you are able to determine the level of suction on the public teat by those on this board and the level of disdain toward the poor and huddled masses. I would say that neither liberal or conservative hold disdain for the poor, but simply hold differing beliefs as to how to help. Your apparent attitude, shared by many on both sides, is the prime cause for the idealogical divide in the country that is at best bordering on toxic.
    ato, that's a good question. Look at the federal budget, look at the source of their income, look at the federal benefits they receive, look at their tax burden as a percentage of income. While the impact of federal benefits might be indirect, it is still real. How much in federal benefits are you getting? I know that while my federal tax bill last year was $15k, I got more than that in direct and indirect federal benefits (probably at least $50k).

    As to your second point, look at the House health care bill that recently passed.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerdawg View Post
    You missed my point. I will put it on the bottom shelf for you.

    You accuse conservatives of not thinking. Instead they sound like an "echo chamber" repeating whatever is spoon feed to them by conservative media.

    So, did Mr. Cut and Past originate the term "echo chamber" of the right or did Mr. Cut and Paste just cut and paste once more.

    Well, well, well, who is echoing the echo chamber now?

    https://newrepublic.com/article/1199...watch-fox-news

    If the left persists, they will come to regret this "echo chamber" mantra just as they came to regret "fake news." You might check in the mirror for that board in your eye.
    I had never seen that article before you posted it. And Mr. Cut and Paste will always be tylertechsas.

    I actually independently arrived at the conclusion that my conservative friends were in an echo chamber of social media and FoxNews/Breitbart/Drudge before reading about it anywhere. It is so apt of a description it wouldn't surprise me if thousands of other people haven't also independently arrived at the same conclusion. In fact it is so obvious that quite a few studies were done on the subject (as cited in my linked study). I don't really think that you have to be that keen of an observer to know this about conservatives and Fox News - you just have to be outside the echo chamber. I discovered these studies and articles because I was interested in the subject. I wasn't actually googling "echo chamber" or I probably would have run across the article you cited. Instead my search terms were focused on fake news and accuracy in reporting.

    The concept of an echo chamber predates even that 2014 article. It has been the term used to describe one of the causes of group think in politics, religion, science, and other fields since before I was even born.

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    Re: Comey's Firing

    Quote Originally Posted by atobulldog View Post

    Guiss, I realize Olbermann is not the president nor a holder of office, but I do question if your disdain for Trump campaign rhetoric is warranted to Mr. Olbermann here
    I have never watched Olbermann or MSNBC. I do my best to avoid hyperpartisan sources of news and opinion because I don't find it very reliable.

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