Comey's Firing

[Guisslapp]

No. I thought it was stupid, but since he got elected, it wasn't a mistake. So I guess you think that's an act of high crimes and misdemeanors?

You see, these are the idiotic things the left is focusing on. There are ACTUAL, REAL problems with some of the things Trump does. What you're bringing up is not even worth mentioning.

Rolling out a travel ban executive order which doesn't exclude green-card holders is a mistake. Tweeting your poorly-worded midnight thoughts on substantial policy issues as the leader of the free world is a mistake. Bringing the Turkish president into the White House and congratulating him on his dictatorial "referendum" is a mistake. Holding a joint presser with Mahmoud Abbas and flying a PLO flag in the White House is a mistake. Trying to foist a crappy AHCA bill upon the congress while holding no ideological position except the leftist view of health care as a human right, ie "make sure everybody gets covered" and then try to get it passed in 2 weeks, all while you promised to REPEAL EVERY WORD OF OBAMACARE, is a mistake.

Agreeing to yet another CR with NO funding for a border wall and continued funding for planned parenthood, all to avoid a meaningless "goverment shutdown" when you control the Oval Office and BOTH houses of congress is a mistake.

Firing Comey, then holding a meeting with a Russian ambassador the next day is a mistake.

Yet, with the cornucopia of mistakes thus far, you're going to circle back to a campaign stump speech?

Believe me I haven't lost focus of all the other mistakes you detailed. Encouraging a foreign adversary to engage in cyberwarfare on American targets may not be treason but it reveals a profound flaw in ones thinking and character that should draw greater contempt among voters than it did.

[saltydawg]

Comey deserved to be fired the instant he stated that he did not recommend prosecution of Hillary after spending 15 minutes laying out the entire case that would have gotten a true bill from any grand jury except one stacked with hand-picked DIMMS in it.

The FBI Director is supposed to head the investigation side and should not be playing any part in prosecutorial decisions. Except the hot dog Comey was acting like he was at least an assistant AG if not the actual AG during that press conference.

I would have no problem with a special counsel being named to investigate the false Russia election collusion claims. As long as special counsels also get named at the same time to look into these Obama era oldies but goodies, and I'm probably missing a few:
1) Lois Lerner, John Koskinen, and the entire IRS scandal regarding tax-exempt status denials on political grounds.
2) Obama's Operation Fast and Furious gun-running scandal
3) Hillary's uranium deal with Russia. That's where the real Russian collusion is.
4) The illegal rewrites (at least 70 changes known as of a year ago) of Obamacare after the law was passed by Congress.
5) The Iran nuclear deal.
6) The Obama administration illegal spying of journalists.
7) Benghazi.
8) The Iran ransom for hostages scandal.
9) The Clinton Foundation scandal.
10) Obama's tampering with the recent Israeli election by spending U.S. taxpayer money to try to defeat Netanyahu.
11) The Hillary e-mail/mishandling of classified documents scandal.

Don't need a special counsel to investigate and prosecute any possible federal crimes mentioned above since US Attorneys and the Attorney General can do it. So what is stopping Sessions from doing it?

[PawDawg]

Don't need a special counsel to investigate and prosecute any possible federal crimes mentioned above since US Attorneys and the Attorney General can do it. So what is stopping Sessions from doing it?

Not the same things the stopped Holder and Lynch from doing it.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Acting FBI boss McCabe admits Clinton pass caused problems

[FriscoDog]

You may have missed the attacks on the media, exclusion of selected press, promotion of the press that agrees with the administration, the consideration of loosening libel laws for public figures to sue the media, the outright lying by the president and his official spokespersons, the attack on judges, the firing of top ranking justice officials that disagree with him or his alternate views of the facts or constitution, his insistence on loyalty to him above all else that have hallmarked nearly every day of his first 100 days - but I haven't.

It is a troubling trend and coupled with his campaign rhetoric that tickles the chords of fascism, I have major concerns... which only grow as his supporters seem to be so locked into his propaganda channels and so willing to oblige each step he takes towards despotism.

At some point you can't stop the momentum of it all, but I think so many otherwise principled republicans are so happy to think they might get their sacred cows - tax reform, border wall, repeal of Obamacare, Supreme Court picks - that they are a little too willing to overlook the troubling pattern that had emerged.

So I assume in your opinion, you don't see the attacks on Trump by a majority of the main stream media as biased. I think the media should hold those in power accountable and the media should be objective and unbiased. Back in the day Walter Cronkite was a huge democrat and liberal, but when you saw him on the news, he just reported the facts and you had no idea of his political leanings.

You also talk about fascism.. Republicans and conservatives are not trying to stifle speech or starting riots all over the country. Progressives and Democrats are the ones rioting, stopping people from speaking at college campuses, shouting down anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view. I submit Berkley as exhibit A.

Trump has his faults.. his tweets among them.. but I for one am very happy that he stood up to the main stream media companies of this country and called them out. They believe that they can control the narrative and that they are oh so powerful. MSNBC morning hosts even said that "they have the responsibility to tell people what to think". During campaign CNN hosts told viewers to not look at Wikileaks as it was a "criminal act to do so". "They (CNN) would tell you what you needed to know regarding what was contained in the leaks". Many current cable and other "news" outlets are such a propaganda arm for the democratic party that Pravda would be proud.

Again, I have no issues with media challenging Trump or others in power if they do it in a factual, reporting type of way... problem is they don't , and they don't even try to hide their bias.

[Guisslapp]

So I assume in your opinion, you
You also talk about fascism.. Republicans and conservatives are not trying to stifle speech or starting riots all over the country. Progressives and Democrats are the ones rioting, stopping people from speaking at college campuses, shouting down anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view. I submit Berkley as exhibit A.

Trump has his faults.. his tweets among them.. but I for one am very happy that he stood up to the main stream media companies of this country and called them out. They believe that they can control the narrative and that they are oh so powerful. MSNBC morning hosts even said that "they have the responsibility to tell people what to think". During campaign CNN hosts told viewers to not look at Wikileaks as it was a "criminal act to do so". "They (CNN) would tell you what you needed to know regarding what was contained in the leaks". Many current cable and other "news" outlets are such a propaganda arm for the democratic party that Pravda would be proud.

Again, I have no issues with media challenging Trump or others in power if they do it in a factual, reporting type of way... problem is they don't , and they don't even try to hide their bias.

It is not so much bias as it is the fact that every day Trump does something that is virtually indefensible. It is impossible to act like most of the things he has done as normal. And by calling out the media as telling fake news, he has made the media have to defend the accuracy of their reporting - which basically requires them to contradict what he said. That is not so much bias as it is reporting in a day in age where US officials are actively peddling lies or alternative facts.

Berkeley is an oddball. Always has been and always will be. It is certain flavor of liberal that hardly represents any popular viewpoint.

The fascism description in that poster speaks for itself and if you can read that without seeing major themes of Trump for almost item on the list, you are not being honest.

[Cool Hand Clyde]

The fascism description in that poster speaks for itself and if you can read that without seeing major themes of Trump for almost item on the list, you are not being honest.

you people see facism everywhere you want to. You people are full of shit. (Note: substitute any "ism" in that statement).

[PawDawg]

facism seems to work when racism won't. Gotta love an "ism" or a "phobe" if you are a liberal, socialist, democrat.

[Guisslapp]

you people see facism everywhere you want to. You people are full of shit. (Note: substitute any "ism" in that statement).

What do you mean by "you people"?

[FriscoDog]

[QUOTE=Guisslapp;1645765]It is not so much bias as it is the fact that every day Trump does something that is virtually indefensible. It is impossible to act like most of the things he has done as normal. And by calling out the media as telling fake news, he has made the media have to defend the accuracy of their reporting - which basically requires them to contradict what he said. That is not so much bias as it is reporting in a day in age where US officials are actively peddling lies or alternative facts.

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It is irresponsible reporting then. Example: CNN runs with story that Comey was fired because he asked for more money for Trump investigation. They and other media outlets took this and ran with the narrative, that Comey must be getting close to "getting the goods or proof" on Trump and his team that Trump had Comey fired. The DOJ reported that was not true, yet the NYTimes, ABCNews and others ran with the story.

Many have said that Russia "hacked" the election... what specifically did the Russian's do? Did they change votes that were cast? Did they "hack" into election machines?
Now it is said that Russia colluded with Trump and his team. What specific things did Russia collude with Trump or his team on? I'm not saying that they did or didn't, but we have not been presented with any evidence that this happened, and the investigation has been going on for 10 months. Yet, everyone in the media is running with this story as fact. When on Nov 8th you had cable news and main stream media personalities actually crying on air when Trump was announced the winner is a clear indication that they were totally "in" on HRC's campaign. Since then the hatred against Trump or anything he stands for or tries to do, has only intensified. It's not policy disagreements anymore, it's personal blind hatred.

[Guisslapp]

Wrong on all accounts.

[Guisslapp]

CNN reported both the Comey camp and DOJ accounts. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ney/index.html

[Guisslapp]

Russians did try to hack voting machines but no one believes that was successful. What they did do was hack the DNC server - republicans ones as well - but selectively released information from the hacks that hurt HRC and helped Trump. Trump openly encouraged this and had many people in his inner circles with close ties to Russia. The actual evidence hasn't been made public, but there is an investigation that the Trump and his surrogates (such as Nunes) have made look even more suspicious because of the shenanigans they keep pulling.

[DawgyNWindow]

CNN reported both the Comey camp and DOJ accounts. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ney/index.html

Yep, under the headline saying:
"Sources: James Comey sought more resources for Russia investigation"

Sure seems like good journalism to me!



I seem to remember some facist making this comment to attack the media:

"Read Fox News, Drudge, Breitbart, and WND much? You should really explore the real news universe. "

Pitiful

[johnnylightnin]

No one who paid attention during the campaign should be surprised by the Trump regime. He's ruling exactly as he ran.