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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by techdawg28 View Post
    I watched the end. Down 1, they hit what would have been a 2-out RBI single to tie the game. The question is on the throw to first. It was close, but he was safe. The ump, however, ruled him out, ending the inning and preventing the tying run from scoring.

    Their coach immediately made a bee-line to the 1st base ump after spiking his helmet. He was ejected.

    $EC strikes again.

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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Bang bang plays go to the defense almost all of the time...and they should.
    Umpire's calls should be right all of the time. That one wasn't and would likely have been overturned with replay in a super regional.

    Plus unless the NCAA rescinds the 2-game suspension that Berry got for not leaving the field immediately, he will miss the first two games of USM's opening weekend series at home against Mississippi State next February.

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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Yep, knowing the rules going in, then whining about those rules is petty. We had done MUCH more throughout the year than we were required to do in the last three games. We didn't do it in the end and it cost us a bid.

    The RPI process in baseball is fair for the most part. Some bubble teams get left out, but playing in an A5 conference helps those team's RPI. That's not news.
    RPI is terrible, and it's not a process. It's a simple formula. We all know the formula, well, except for our coaches. However, selection is a process done behind closed doors. What is not fair is how the selection committee chooses to apply it to each individual case. They don't just take the top RPIs to fill in all the at-large bids. They look at many other factors, primarily based on RPI: Top 25 RPI wins, Top 50 RPI wins, Top 100 RPI wins, 200+ losses, SOS, OOC SOS, etc. All selectively applied and rationalized to achieve the ends they want, behind closed doors. They gave a bid to UCLA whose RPI was several spots worse than our's.

    What helped those Big Ten teams inflate their RPIs wasn't being part of the Cartel. They just racked up wins over bad teams. Same as St. John's. Teams with lesser brands have done the same and got left out.

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Clemson was a top 10 RPI team all year. Really? You think they should have left them out?

    Maryland is a prime example of what we have against us, but they ended at 34. If we end at 34 like we should have, we'd be in.

    Indiana was in the 20s and had been included in projections for the last two months.

    Michigan was in the low 30s just like Maryland


    We knew what we had to do, but failed.
    I neither said nor implied the committee should've left Clemson out. I said they got to host after losing 11 of their last 12 conference games. If how a team finishes is part of the selection criteria, shouldn't Clemson have been traveling as a 2 seed? I was simply pointing out the double standard. Clemson and Maryland finished much worse than Tech did, yet they were rewarded but not Tech.

    Yes, those Big Ten teams had better RPIs, but their resumes were devoid of good wins. If those were blind resumes, I doubt those Big Ten teams would've been given all those bids.

    In basketball they tell us our RPI doesn't matter and that we need more top RPI wins instead. In baseball they tell us our top RPI wins don't matter and that we need a better RPI instead. The NCAA selectively applies RPI to justify including the brands they want.
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    Some of y'all might find it interesting but most of the USM fans wanted Burroughs over Berry and a lot would still make the trade right now...

    In hindsight - one or two games made the difference over a 55 game slate -

    Don't lose to A-State, SFA or MT and where are we? (any two of those 4)

    UNCC doesn't make 5 OUTSTANDING fielding plays and we have that breakout inning where are we?

    Baseball is literally a game of inches

    I do know this - watching those teams up close Wed - Fri and I'm certain we don't have the horses YET to be a constant like Rice and USM...
    Even if we beat A-State and SFA, our RPI would've been better, but we'd still have finished 5th in C-USA and still lost 4 of 5 to end the season. <-- Those were the 2 primary reasons given for Tech getting left out.

    Burroughs is a really good speaker, and Berry kinda creeps me out a little. I could see why they'd want to trade.

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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Both of C-USA's reps advanced to the Regional Finals.

    Big Ten at-large teams went 2-8 with their only 2 wins vs. #159 UMBC (23-25) and #185 Ohio (30-28) and embarrassing losses to non-scholarship Yale and #219 Holy Cross (24-29).

    St. John's (only played 1 Top 50 team all season) and UCLA (RPI several spots behind Tech) both went 2-&-Q getting bounced by weaker teams in UNCG and SDSU, respectively.
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    Umpire's calls should be right all of the time. That one wasn't and would likely have been overturned with replay in a super regional..
    Honestly, I've never heard a baseball fan say "Umpire's calls should be right all the time." It's impossible.

    I'm not a fan of replays in baseball until they figure out a way to eliminate the home plate umpire and /or overturn balls, strikes, foul tips, etc..
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    Even if we beat A-State and SFA, our RPI would've been better, but we'd still have finished 5th in C-USA and still lost 4 of 5 to end the season. <-- Those were the 2 primary reasons given for Tech getting left out.
    We were seeded 5th, but finished 4th. That was BS, and has nothing to do with the non-selection. ODU was 2nd this year. We were 5th last year.

    Win 40 games and play teams that will rank us in the RPI 30s and we are in every year. No more SWAC or nlulm.
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    It's pretty certain - based on all accounts - we win the third game at MT and we had the bid, regardless of what we did in the tourney - winning SEVEN series in a row would of been the trick

    That said 1 win in the tourney also puts us in the field - our schedule was fine, didn't need any more additional games to tax our lack luster staff

    Outside of a better series to open than UAPB, I would not of changed our schedule make up too much (top 15 OOC SOS is what we need annually along with a top 4 finish and we get in more often that not on most years
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Honestly, I've never heard a baseball fan say "Umpire's calls should be right all the time." It's impossible.

    I'm not a fan of replays in baseball until they figure out a way to eliminate the home plate umpire and /or overturn balls, strikes, foul tips, etc..
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    The fact remains that if that same play happened this weekend, the call would have been overturned and that umpire would have been proven wrong.

    I stand by the statement that umpire's calls should be right all the time. If an official in any sport isn't trying to get every call right, they shouldn't be officiating.

    Will every call be made correctly? Of course not. But more and more calls will be made correctly by expanding the proper use of technology to correct umpiring mistakes.

    Umpires who get calls wrong in key situations should not advance within the postseason. Even better would be to weed them out before the postseason starts.
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    The fact remains that if that same play happened this weekend, the call would have been overturned and that umpire would have been proven wrong.

    I stand by the statement that umpire's calls should be right all the time. If an official in any sport isn't trying to get every call right, they shouldn't be officiating.

    Will every call be made correctly? Of course not. But more and more calls will be made correctly by expanding the proper use of technology to correct umpiring mistakes.

    Umpires who get calls wrong in key situations should not advance within the postseason. Even better would be to weed them out before the postseason starts.

    Why is it more important to get the less frequent base calls right over the more frequent plate ump calls?
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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    Well, USM was in good shape in their regional, but lost to Mussussippi State twice yesterday, and the Bulldogs move on to face LSU instead of the Golden Eagles.
    MSU is becoming the "CUSA Killer". They knocked us out of the tournament last year, and now USM.

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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Why is it more important to get the less frequent base calls right over the more frequent plate ump calls?
    It isn't more important. The technology exists now to call balls and strikes electronically. But until MLB moves to do that it isn't going to happen anywhere else. And it may be decades before MLB umpires allow that power to be taken away from them.

    In the meantime existing technology shouldn't be held back waiting for ball and strike calls to get included.

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    Re: C-USA Tournament Day 2 - Thursday

    We should get robots to play the game too.
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