Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
Oh yeah? You still think we have a seat at that table? Do you think we will have any future influence on global emissions agreements?

Do you think our traditional allies will rush to back us when we are looking for international community's support on something that we think is important?
Yes, absolutely, absolutely

We are the second largest polluter in the world. They can't do anything without us. There is a reason people have been kissing China and India's ass to get them to participate. Because if they can't get them to particpate their agreement is meaningless (if the alarmists are to be believed). It's the same situation for the US. If you think otherwise then you have fallen for the anti Trump media.

We are still one of the great (if not greatest) military super powers in the world. Our allies will still be our allies because they would rather keep us on their side.

Further, the media is saying we are going to lose our technological leadership by dropping out of the Paris accords. Do you think the Elon Musk/ clean energy types will stop working on new technology or move all of their operations overseas? Do you think California and New York and other liberal bastions will stop pushing for more green energy and research? Certainly there will be some drain as other countries may offer better incentives/tax cuts/ grants to pursue the technology, but do you really think the US will cease to be a major player in the arena?

Lets say that everyone(other countries) is so pissed about the Paris accords that the decide to place punitive taxes on any US exports or stop trading with the US entirely. They could certainly do some damage to our economy. Would Europe, South Korea, Japan be stronger with a weaker US economy? If the US is greatly weakened who would be the new superpowers in the world? Is it better to have an unchecked China with no one to oppose them?