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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by atobulldog View Post
    What were they(Russians) trying to hack? I've heard voter rolls and I've heard voting machines. All with phishing attempts. Now, I am only familiar with Louisiana, but the voting machines aren't connected to the internet. The machines are used for voting, the votes tabulated and then the counts certified and communicated to the state office.

    If it was the voter rolls that was the target, that highlights the need for better security/updates to the voter rolls.
    I keep hearing the Russians were trying to tamper with the election over and over and that they were trying to lean the election Trumps way. How does anyone know which way the Russians were trying to swing the election if they were in fact trying to sway the election. I do not think anyone other than Russia can completely answer that question.

    How the heck would anyone ever get the right answer to that question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BhadDawg View Post
    I keep hearing the Russians were trying to tamper with the election over and over and that they were trying to lean the election Trumps way. How does anyone know which way the Russians were trying to swing the election if they were in fact trying to sway the election. I do not think anyone other than Russia can completely answer that question.

    How the heck would anyone ever get the right answer to that question?
    Our intelligence community is confident. They have no doubt. They have access to the details they need to make such an assessment.

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by BhadDawg View Post
    I keep hearing the Russians were trying to tamper with the election over and over and that they were trying to lean the election Trumps way. How does anyone know which way the Russians were trying to swing the election if they were in fact trying to sway the election. I do not think anyone other than Russia can completely answer that question.

    How the heck would anyone ever get the right answer to that question?
    It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to figure out based on propaganda. You probably wouldn't know if all they were doing was trying unsuccessfully to get into the voting machines. Their effort was broader than just trying to tamper with actual votes.

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Right. Given the fact that an election hadn't even been called when the money was given (let alone the lack of evidence that Obama directed this grant or was even aware of it), the facts of that article do no remotely prove the statement.
    He wanted to help steer the politics of Israel. That better? I doubt it wasn't known by U.S. intelligence services that an Israel election was going to get called.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I don't like Obama, but we don't have to go out into looney toon land to manufacture criticism of his presidency - there is plenty of real criticism that can be brought.
    Hey, that's my line!

    Normally, I would agree. But this situation doesn't fit because of Obama's criticism of Russia for doing what he did. The scale may not be balanced on it all, but that doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Gww whiz, Russians trying to hack into our electronic voting machines. Isn't that the real story here?
    No.

    I'd like to know the last election that the Russians didn't try to influence in some way. My bet is on FDR's 1944 win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    No.

    I'd like to know the last election that the Russians didn't try to influence in some way. My bet is on FDR's 1944 win.
    They were a lot more successful this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    They were a lot more successful this time.
    Yeah, they made the black folks stay home and caused Hillary to completely skip campaigning key blue states.

    She ran a HORRIBLE campaign. Y'all lost.

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    They were a lot more successful this time.
    Your libtardness is showing again (still).

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Yeah, they made the black folks stay home and caused Hillary to completely skip campaigning key blue states.

    She ran a HORRIBLE campaign. Y'all lost.
    Do you deny that they hacked the DNC and others? Do you deny that they leaked this information? Do you deny they engaged in a fake information campaign? Do you deny that they tried to hack voting booths (but failed this time)? The IC has no doubt about these things or that it was directed by the highest level of Russia's government.

    Do you think that is not worth investigating or understanding?

    Trump continue to just call all this stuff fake news.

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Do you deny that they hacked the DNC and others? Do you deny that they leaked this information? Do you deny they engaged in a fake information campaign? Do you deny that they tried to hack voting booths (but failed this time)? The IC has no doubt about these things or that it was directed by the highest level of Russia's government.

    Do you think that is not worth investigating or understanding?

    Trump continue to just call all this stuff fake news.
    Russia is a nothing burger.

    She lost.

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Russia is a nothing burger.

    She lost.
    It seems like we could all agree that Russian meddling is bad. Who knows what they wanted to happen? Maybe they were rooting for the person who got 3 million more votes! I don't understand why Trump and his supporters automatically fall into the media narrative that Russian meddling invalidates Trump.

    As long as there was no collusion, I don't see how it invalidates him at all. Why not get to the bottom of this?
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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Do you deny that they hacked the DNC and others? Do you deny that they leaked this information? Do you deny they engaged in a fake information campaign? Do you deny that they tried to hack voting booths (but failed this time)? The IC has no doubt about these things or that it was directed by the highest level of Russia's government.

    Do you think that is not worth investigating or understanding?

    Trump continue to just call all this stuff fake news.
    What fake information? I do recall the TRUTH being revealed about KKK and some other stuff. You libtards are upset some of the TRUTH got out and cry foul because it MIGHT have hurt Krooked Killary's chances. And, it might have. Insomuch that that revelation might have swayed some voters away from Killary. I don't know of ANY verified count of vote changes, due to the reveal, but it's logical to assume there was some.

    You acknowledge there was NO actual voting tampering...this time. So, the votes as counted are accurate....well, except for the documented and assumed other voter fraud democraps routinely engage in. Of course, that was nothing new in 2016. The 'craps have engaged in voter fraud for decades.

    I advocate this: a 100% fair and legal election(s) every time. One vote for one legal person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post

    As long as there was no collusion, I don't see how it invalidates him at all. Why not get to the bottom of this?
    Russia is not a threat. They are nothing other than retaliation from the socialist democrats and RINOS like McCain who can't accept defeat by a political establishment infidel. It's why Trump was elected and that drives never Trumpers nuts.

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    It seems like we could all agree that Russian meddling is bad. Who knows what they wanted to happen? Maybe they were rooting for the person who got 3 million more votes! I don't understand why Trump and his supporters automatically fall into the media narrative that Russian meddling invalidates Trump.

    As long as there was no collusion, I don't see how it invalidates him at all. Why not get to the bottom of this?
    I am no "Trumpster" but, I do support him now that he is our duly elected and VALID president. I do like some of the things he says he stands for: the wall, cutting taxes, crushing mooslim terrorists, etc... So, of course, I hope he can accomplish those things. I also like the fact that he is NOT a real "politician" and as such, is absolutely driving the political establishment nuts! We had all better understand this: the political establishment cares only about itself, and that doesn't matter which party label they happen to wear.

    Trump was elected, fairly and legally. So was obummer....twice. (yes there was some voter fraud, but obummer would have been elected in '08 and '12 even without the fake votes). I certainly didn't like (and still don't) obummer getting elected, but he did. While I question the IQ of some American voters, I do not question obummer being a "valid" POTUS.

    Trump is also a "valid" POTUS.

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    Re: NSA Hacker arrested...

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Russia is not a threat.
    What is that judgment based on?
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