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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    We can dream of getting in the AAC when we double our current budget.

    We are having cake walks to raise money and our AD refuses to hobnob with the common folk.
    I hear what you're saying, but keep in mind we're talking about an AAC of 10 years from now, not the AAC of today. Take away a handful of the biggest budget schools, and their average would come down dramatically.

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by techdawg28 View Post
    Didn't they vote in favor of us joining C-USA?
    We had Tulane's support in 2004 and in 2012. And Tulane was not invited to the Big East/AAC until November, 2012, long after casting a vote in favor of Tech's CUSA invitation in April, 2012.

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Tulsa and Memphis will not vote for us.

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    Tulsa and Memphis will not vote for us.
    Yet Tulsa voted for us in 2012 when we were invited to CUSA. And Memphis has a completely new leadership team from just four years ago.

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    I hear what you're saying, but keep in mind we're talking about an AAC of 10 years from now, not the AAC of today. Take away a handful of the biggest budget schools, and their average would come down dramatically.
    And that's the problem. By the time we get invited it will just be a watered down C-USA/Belch conference.

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by Houston Techsan View Post
    And that's the problem. By the time we get invited it will just be a watered down C-USA/Belch conference.
    The only place to go from the AAC is a power conference. I don't think we'll see more than 2, maybe 4 AAC teams make it there between now and then. Not 7 like C-USA's realignment. Many of the teams will remain, and it will be one step closer to "relevant."

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    I hear what you're saying, but keep in mind we're talking about an AAC of 10 years from now, not the AAC of today. Take away a handful of the biggest budget schools, and their average would come down dramatically.
    Of course, if their TV $ is significantly reduced when they renegotiate soon, the collective budgets may dramatically reduce as well. Many of them are running such high budgets to both get into a money conference, and attract higher TV $

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by techdawg28 View Post
    The only place to go from the AAC is a power conference. I don't think we'll see more than 2, maybe 4 AAC teams make it there between now and then. Not 7 like C-USA's realignment. Many of the teams will remain, and it will be one step closer to "relevant."
    There are 12 football playing members of the AAC. The 5 best candidates to move from the AAC to a Power 5 conference are:

    USF
    Cincinnati
    UCONN
    Houston
    UCF

    Everybody else in the AAC is just waiting on us to get there. They aren't going anywhere. And IMO, the best options for the AAC to expand are:

    LA Tech - Great geographical fit. Athletically sound in all sports, essentially 5 hours or less from SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Memphis, Tulane & USM.
    Southern Miss - Great legacy fit. Athletically sound in all sports. Shares many of the same geographic advantages that LA Tech has.
    Old Dominion - Great geographic fit in the east. Appears to be athletically sound in most sports. Within 5 hours drive of Navy, ECU, & Temple.
    Rice - Academics, academics, academics. Also fits well geographically.

    *FAU - Nice geographic fit in the east, assuming USF or UCF (or both) need to be replaced. The AAC will want to keep a presence in Florida.

    Just my opinion, but the only way WKU and/or MTSU get invited to the AAC is if they both get invited at the same time. Having them both in the same region helps the geography. Otherwise, either one could end up being an outpost.

    These are the kind of on-going talks that T-Mac needs to be having with AAC officials today.
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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    If Memphis is still there neither MTSU nor WKU would be an Outpost, but would rather bridge the west and east. If Memphis were to be taken, they would still be a bridge and would essentially replace Memphis. Plus, their on the field/court success would be quality adds for the AAC.

    I think we're a solid candidate, but we need some titles and big wins over the next few years to make sure we're first in line.

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by techdawg28 View Post
    If Memphis is still there neither MTSU nor WKU would be an Outpost, but would rather bridge the west and east. If Memphis were to be taken, they would still be a bridge and would essentially replace Memphis. Plus, their on the field/court success would be quality adds for the AAC.

    I think we're a solid candidate, but we need some titles and big wins over the next few years to make sure we're first in line.
    We'll also need to continue to improve our academic profile, which Guice seems to be doing well.

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    The Big 12 is still perceived as the most vulnerable, as Texas or Oklahoma could cripple the league by leaving. But revenue totals are encouraging -- its 10 members will split $348 million from the 2016-17 academic year -- and the internal squabbling that has plagued the conference seems to have disappeared.

    This quote is from Adam Rittenberg's story that Dawg06 posted. Rittenburg doesn't explain the reason the internal squabbling within the Big 12 has disappeared. Texas has basically told the rest of the conference where it can shove its proposed future plans for the league. Everybody knows the score and is quietly planning for the day the league implodes.

    I would be surprised if the league actually makes it to 2023. Five schools leaving at one time would nullify the Grant of Rights. But I would be absolutely shocked if it survives past 2023. If the NCAA allows the remnants to stay together - Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State, etc...- and rebuild, that would trigger major realignment within the G5.


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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    without Oklahoma and Texas, who really wants Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State, TCU, etc.?

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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    without Oklahoma and Texas, who really wants Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State, TCU, etc.?
    I don't think it is a question who wants them but a question of out of the possibilities in the G5 and them who is better. There very well could be some of the G5 who are better fits than the leftovers from the Big12 but that would take some mighty convincing arguments. The leftovers from the Big 12 would generally have more pull than anyone in the G5. The question then remains, who in the G5 is most attractive to join with the leftovers from the Big 12. Let us pray that our administration is preparing for our arguments to be at the head of the line of those that are desirable in the coming changes.
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    Re: Conference realignment likely on hold until 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by faninmonroe View Post
    without Oklahoma and Texas, who really wants Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State, TCU, etc.?
    Umm..... ME!!

    We better be ready.

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