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    Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Hussein Obama throwing Israel under the bus as predicted.

    Israel: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings
    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report April 16, 2012, 3:07 PM (GMT+02:00)

    The fundamental rift on Iran between US President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu burst into the open Monday, April 16 when high-ranking Israeli officials close to Netanyahu directly accused the president of reneging on the US-Israeli understandings reached ahead of the Istanbul talks between the six powers and Iran on April 14.
    Behind the show biz of Istanbul, they charged, the US and Iran had reached secret agreements in clandestine bilateral contacts channeled through Paris and Vienna.
    The row surfaced Sunday when Netanyahu said the US and world powers by agreeing to hold more talks in Baghdad next month had given Tehran a "freebie" of five more weeks to continue enriching uranium without restrictions. By singling out the US, the prime minister aimed his comment directly at the president.
    Obama’s response was fast. At a news conference ending the Western Hemisphere summit in Cartagenia, Colombia, he commented sharply: "The notion that somehow we've given something away or a `freebie' would indicate Iran has gotten something. In fact, they've got some of the toughest sanctions that they're going to be facing coming up in just a few months if they don't take advantage of these talks."
    That is the very point on which Israel accuses the US president of playing false: time. As disclosed by debkafile on April 9, American and Israeli officials preceded the Istanbul talks with an understanding for the US to put before Iran agreed demands/concessions: Iran would be allowed to keep 1,000 centrifuges for the low-level enrichment of uranium up to 3.5 percent purity, the first time Israel had accepted the principle of Iran enriching uranium at any grade at all.


    http://www.debka.com/article/21919/

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    The naive empty suited one scews up again.

    Israel: Reported US-Iranian nuclear deal - wishful thinking
    DEBKAfile Special Report April 18, 2012, 2:05 PM (GMT+02:00)

    Officials in Jerusalem angrily dismissed reports of a breakthrough in last Saturday’s nuclear negotiations in Istanbul between six world powers (P5+1) and Iran and most emphatically the claim that “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu played his expected role in this choreography” by criticizing the negotiators for giving Iran a five-week freebie for continuing enrichment without limitation, as cited in a Washington Post article on Wednesday, April 18, by the columnist David Ignatius.
    Iran is presented as ready to agree to stop enriching uranium to 20 percent and halt work at its underground facility for higher enrichment near Qom, and export its stockpile of highly enriched uranium for final processing to 20 percent for use in medical isotopes. Israeli sources say this report is false: Far from this being the shape of an eventual settlement, it was the shape of American demands relayed to Tehran in side-channels going via Paris and Vienna. Israel was never informed of Iran accepting this formula or its presentation to the Istanbul meeting.
    Above all, they stressed, Netanyahu has not and will not play a role in any choreography of this kind staged by the Obama administration.
    The Americans appear to have been taken in by the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s public pledge
    in February not to commit the “grave sin” of building a nuclear weapon as representing the Islamic regime’s face-saver for caving in to US pressure. The WP article is indeed captioned” “The stage is set for a deal with Iran.” Nothing, say debkafile's military and intelligence sources, is farther from the truth. According to our Iranian sources, there is no sign of the Iranians caving in.

    Rest of article

    http://www.debka.com/article/21924/

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    He's such a weak empty suit; and an evil one at that.

    Obama ready to yield on Iran's nuclear transparency. Israel:Tehran will cheat
    DEBKAfile Special Report April 18, 2012, 9:23 PM (GMT+02:00)

    In the direct, secret exchanges between the US and Iran which led up to the Istanbul talks with the six powers, of Saturday, April 14, President Barack Obama quietly backed off from his demand that Iran “come clean” on its nuclear activities and open up to international inspection, debkafile reports.
    This concession paved the way for Tehran’s consent to discuss his framework proposal to stop enriching uranium to 20 percent, halt work at its underground facility for higher enrichment near Qom, and export its stockpile of highly enriched uranium for final processing to 20 percent for use in medical isotopes. This would be presented as a deal for settling the nuclear controversy.
    debkafile’s military sources: The Iranians may find it worth their while to accept this framework. After all, once sanctions are lifted by the end of June - as Tehran demands - and they are freed of IAEA oversight, the Iranians can go forward with their plans for building a nuclear weapon undisturbed and Washington can celebrate a breakthrough.
    Israel has not received word of this deal.
    debkafile’s Washington sources report that in contrast with the downbeat mood in Israel, Washington is already celebrating its success in resolving the Iranian nuclear conundrum and averting war.


    http://www.debka.com/article/21924/

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    ‘We will strike Tel Aviv if Israel attacks,’ senior Iranian cleric vows


    Tehran will attack Tel Aviv if Israel makes the slightest aggression against the Islamic Republic, senior Iranian cleric Hojjatoleslam Seyed Reza Taqavi said at Friday prayers, according to the semi-official Fars news agency.
    “If Israel makes a mistake, we will attack the heart of Tel Aviv from Tehran,” Taqavi, Head of the Policy-Making Council of Iran, said.
    “They do not dare to damage our nuclear centers and know very well that any move against the Islamic Republic will make them regret it,” he emphasized.

    Mossad director Tamir Pardo and Shin Bet director Yoram Cohen briefed the Cabinet on Sunday regarding the intelligence agencies’ efforts against Iranian and Hezbollah terrorism around the world.
    The intelligence chiefs noted that over the past two years Iran and Hezbollah planned terror attacks in more than twenty countries.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    As stated before, Obama is going to throw Israel under the bus again IMHO.

    An ill wind blows between US and Israeli intelligence over attack on Iran

    DEBKAfile
    Special Report
    July 29, 2012, 11:44 AM (GMT+02:00)


    The acrimony reached a nadir with an unusually detailed Association Press report on July 28 quoting anonymous sources as stating, “The CIA considers Israel its No. 1 counterintelligence threat in the agency’s New East Division,” - the group that oversees spying across he Middle East.
    Prime Minister Binyamin’s Office reviled its content, including allegations of Mossad intrusions of US officials’ homes, as “a lying report.”

    This leak had two objectives, says DEBKAfile:
    1. To deter US presidential candidate Mitt Romney from using his visit to Israel Sunday and Monday July 29-30 to promise, if elected in November, to review Jonathan Pollard’s life sentence for spying for Israel, which all previous US presidents have refused to do at the CIA's behest. It has been suggested that he may be considering going on record with this pledge to win Jewish votes.
    2. To hit back at the Israel watchers dogging the footsteps of CIA agents planted in a widely-flung undercover network for picking up any clues that Israeli preparations for a unilateral attack on Iran’s nuclear program are moving into operational phase.

    Although American and Israeli officials habitually stress the commonalty of the two government’s decisions on Iran - and top US officials are again turning up in Israel every few days - President Barack Obama still can’t be sure that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak won’t take him off-guard by springing an attack at a date earlier than the one under discussion between them.
    DEBKAfile’s Washington sources report that October is often mentioned these days in the White House, the Pentagon and top military command as the month to watch. Persian Gulf capitals are also on guard for an October attack although they prefer an American to an Israeli strike.
    High-ranking Saudi princes have been telling Western officials on recent visits to the kingdom that they received Washington’s assurance that the Israelis would strike first and the Americans join in later.

    Riyadh has tried to persuade the Obama administration that the US must go first and do its utmost to keep the Israelis out of it altogether. The Saudis were told that Washington is doing what it can to hold Israel back but can’t be sure of succeeding.

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    http://www.timesofisrael.com/intelli...ast-two-years/

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    Khamenei Warns Iran’s Top Leaders: WAR IN WEEKS

    DEBKAfile DEBKA Video August 1, 2012, 8:54 AM (GMT+02:00)

    On July 27, just before Friday prayers, Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei summoned top Iranian military chiefs for what he called “their last war council.”
    “We’ll be at war within weeks,” he told the gathering, debkafile’s exclusive Iranian and intelligence sources disclose.
    Present were Defense Minister General Ahmad Vahidi, Khamenei’s military adviser General Yahya Rahim-Safavi, Armed Forces Chief Major General Seyed Hassan Firuzabadi, Revolutionary Guards Corps commander General Mohammad Ali Jafari and Al Qods Brigades chief General Qassem Soleimani. The commanders of the air force, the navy and ground forces were also there.
    Each of the participants was tapped to report on the readiness of his branch or sector for shouldering its contingency mission.
    While retaliation had been exhaustively drilled in regular military exercises in the past year, Khamenei ordered the biggest fortification project in Iran’s history to save its nuclear program from even the mightiest of America’s super-weapons. Rocks are being gathered from afar, piled on key nuclear installations, covered with many tons of poured concrete and finally plated with steel.
    That same Friday, the US Air force unveiled its new Massive Ordnance Penetrators. Each bunker buster weighs 30,000 pounds and is able to penetrate 60 feet of reinforced concrete.
    Turning to retaliation, the war council endorsed a battery of paybacks for potential US and/or Israeli pre-emptive strikes against its nuclear program.

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    http://www.debka.com/article/22229/K...s-WAR-IN-WEEKS

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Why should they be afraid of Obama? He's a joke per this matter and will probably back stab Israel anyway. he's easy to read.


    Amos Yadlin: As Israel agonizes over whether to let its military option lapse,
    it needs more indications of US commitment to use force if necessary

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-is...f-amos-yadlin/

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Why should they be afraid of Obama? He's a joke per this matter and will probably back stab Israel anyway. he's easy to read.


    Iran is simply not afraid of the United States,
    says Israel’s former military intelligence chief



    Amos Yadlin: As Israel agonizes over whether to let its military option lapse,
    it needs more indications of US commitment to use force if necessary

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-is...f-amos-yadlin/
    I agree this is very frightening. After the Arab Spring, we really have no friends except Israel in the region, and I've noticed that even Russia is getting bolder every day as well.

    If Obama's goal was to reduce our influence in the worrld and create a leadership vacuum where no one country has more power than another, he has certainly done what he intended. Unfortunately, this may be bringing us closer to something very ugly.

    The UN makes our congress look like they're singing kumbaya. Someone will eventually come out on top, because there will never be agreement. Myself, I kind of liked it when western culture dominated.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Obama back stabbing both Israel and the American people because of his election? What a foreign policy looser he and Hillary are in a world that needs real leaders. Oh...and he will finally visit Israel a few weeks before the elections to give a speech.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Israel hits Iran before the election because they want to make sure Obama is run off. To them he's seen as a traitor to God's people and therefore a threat. Will they act now is the question.

    US-Israeli deal on Iran? No Israeli strike now if Obama pledged a spring attack

    DEBKAfile
    Exclusive Report
    August 18, 2012, 2:37 PM (GMT+02:00)



    Netanyahu and Barak hold the key to Iran attack.

    The
    White House this week scrambled to reconnect with Jerusalem after the Obama administration was persuaded that Israel was serious about conducting a fall military operation against Iran’s nuclear program before the Nov. 6 US presidential election - notwithstanding the heavy opposition guns firing against it at home and from Washington. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, assisted by their newly-appointed Home Front Defense Minister, were seen deep in practical preparations for this operation and its repercussions, as well an outbreak of hostilities with Syria and Hizballah.
    The White House accordingly got in touch with Netanyahu’s office to find out what America must do to convince Israel to back off.
    Wednesday, Aug.15, DEBKAfile revealed exclusively that the Obama and Netanyahu were discussing a one-on-one encounter on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly session opening in New York on Sept. 18 in order to resume their military and strategic dialog on the Iranian issue broken off by their polar differences.

    DEBKA
    file now learns that those discussions have moved forward. Handled by National Security Adviser Tom Donilon for the US president and senior adviser Ron Dermer for the prime minister, they focus essentially on a four-point plan embodying Israel’s requirements for delaying an attack.
    1. President Obama will formally inform the two houses of congress in writing that he plans to use military force to prevent Iran from arming itself with a nuclear weapon. He will request their endorsement. Aside from this step’s powerful deterrent weight for persuading Iran’s leaders to give up their pursuit of a nuclear bomb,
    it would also give the US president the freedom to go to war with Iran when he sees fit, without have to seek congressional endorsement.
    2. To underscore his commitment, President Obama would pay a visit to Israel in the weeks leading up to election-day and deliver a speech to the Knesset solemnly pledging to use American military force against the Islamic Republic if Tehran still refuses to give up its nuclear weapon program. He will repeat that pledge before various other public forums.
    3, In the coming months up until Spring 2013, the United States will upgrade Israel’s military, intelligence and technological capabilities so that if President Obama (whether he is reelected or replaced by Mitt Romney) decides to back out of this commitment, Israel will by then be in command of the resources necessary for inflicting mortal damage on Iran’s nuclear program with a unilateral strike.
    DEBKAfile’s military sources note that an influx of these top-grade US military resources would bridge the gap between American and Israeli ticking clocks for an attack on Iran, and dispel the fear in Jerusalem that delay would give Iran time to bury its key facilities in “zones of immunity” - outside Israel’s reach for serious damage with its present capabilities.
    4. If points 1-3 can be covered – and Netanyahu and Barak are convinced the US really means to strike Iran next spring - our Washington and Jerusalem sources report that Jerusalem may be coming around to agreeing to hold back a lone Israeli attack this autumn.

    Those sources report that President Obama has not rejected the plan. Donilon was told to keep on talking to Netanyahu and Barak.

    http://www.debka.com/article/22287/U...-spring-attack


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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Obama back stabbing both Israel and the American people because of his election? What a foreign policy looser he and Hillary are in a world that needs real leaders. Oh...and he will finally visit Israel a few weeks before the elections to give a speech.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Israel hits Iran before the election because they want to make sure Obama is run off. To them he's seen as a traitor to God's people and therefore a threat. Will they act now is the question.

    US-Israeli deal on Iran? No Israeli strike now if Obama pledged a spring attack

    DEBKAfile


    Exclusive Report
    August 18, 2012, 2:37 PM (GMT+02:00)



    Netanyahu and Barak hold the key to Iran attack.

    The
    White House this week scrambled to reconnect with Jerusalem after the Obama administration was persuaded that Israel was serious about conducting a fall military operation against Iran’s nuclear program before the Nov. 6 US presidential election - notwithstanding the heavy opposition guns firing against it at home and from Washington. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister, Ehud Barak, assisted by their newly-appointed Home Front Defense Minister, were seen deep in practical preparations for this operation and its repercussions, as well an outbreak of hostilities with Syria and Hizballah.
    The White House accordingly got in touch with Netanyahu’s office to find out what America must do to convince Israel to back off.
    Wednesday, Aug.15, DEBKAfile revealed exclusively that the Obama and Netanyahu were discussing a one-on-one encounter on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly session opening in New York on Sept. 18 in order to resume their military and strategic dialog on the Iranian issue broken off by their polar differences.

    DEBKA
    file now learns that those discussions have moved forward. Handled by National Security Adviser Tom Donilon for the US president and senior adviser Ron Dermer for the prime minister, they focus essentially on a four-point plan embodying Israel’s requirements for delaying an attack.
    1. President Obama will formally inform the two houses of congress in writing that he plans to use military force to prevent Iran from arming itself with a nuclear weapon. He will request their endorsement. Aside from this step’s powerful deterrent weight for persuading Iran’s leaders to give up their pursuit of a nuclear bomb,
    it would also give the US president the freedom to go to war with Iran when he sees fit, without have to seek congressional endorsement.
    2. To underscore his commitment, President Obama would pay a visit to Israel in the weeks leading up to election-day and deliver a speech to the Knesset solemnly pledging to use American military force against the Islamic Republic if Tehran still refuses to give up its nuclear weapon program. He will repeat that pledge before various other public forums.
    3, In the coming months up until Spring 2013, the United States will upgrade Israel’s military, intelligence and technological capabilities so that if President Obama (whether he is reelected or replaced by Mitt Romney) decides to back out of this commitment, Israel will by then be in command of the resources necessary for inflicting mortal damage on Iran’s nuclear program with a unilateral strike.
    DEBKAfile’s military sources note that an influx of these top-grade US military resources would bridge the gap between American and Israeli ticking clocks for an attack on Iran, and dispel the fear in Jerusalem that delay would give Iran time to bury its key facilities in “zones of immunity” - outside Israel’s reach for serious damage with its present capabilities.
    4. If points 1-3 can be covered – and Netanyahu and Barak are convinced the US really means to strike Iran next spring - our Washington and Jerusalem sources report that Jerusalem may be coming around to agreeing to hold back a lone Israeli attack this autumn.

    Those sources report that President Obama has not rejected the plan. Donilon was told to keep on talking to Netanyahu and Barak.

    http://www.debka.com/article/22287/U...-spring-attack


    Gee, who would have guessed?



    August 20, 2012, 2:01 am

    Gen. Martin Dempsey, head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters while on a flight to Afghanistan that he understood Israel’s urgency in calling for action against Iran’s nuclear program.
    “They are living with an existential concern that we are not living with,” he said, according to AFP.
    Dempsey added that he and Israel Defense Forces Chief of General Staff Benny Gantz spoke on a bi-weekly basis to coordinate intelligence, despite gaps in understanding how close Iran is to the point of no return.
    “We compare intelligence, we discuss regional implications. And we’ve admitted to each other that our clocks are turning at different rates,” he said.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/top-us-...eat-timetable/

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Yeppers Obama's back stabbing Israel indeed. And this is only the beginning of how bad I think he will get soon.


    The United States is colluding with a top Israeli newspaper to stymie Israel's efforts to strike Iran's nuclear weapons program, and the IDF knows it, according to a leading nationalist pundit.
    Writing in Friday's edition of Makor Rishon, one of the Israel's veteran journalists, Amnon Lord, paints a picture of intense U.S. meddling in internal Israeli political and security-oriented processes in an effort to prevent a successful Israeli strike on the weapon program meant to make it extinct.
    "This is particularly evident in the grave matter of the leaks regarding Azerbaijan in the past, about the Kurdish region, and recently in the publication of the flight paths to the target. All this is being produced by our ally, with the cooperation of one of the largest media platforms in Israel, which serves and assists the Obama administration against the government of Israel. The Americans are the ones who are feeding some of the arch-pundits with damaging information."

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Another reason why America is in mortal danger (and suffering now IMHO) and/or why Obama will lose this election. Barack had better decide to be on Israel's side in this matter, and quick, or our country and himself are in big trouble.

    Top US soldier: “I don’t want to be complicit” if Israel attacks Iran
    DEBKAfile Special Report August 31, 2012, 9:20 AM (GMT+02:00)

    Binyamin Netanyahu
    US Gen. Martin Dempsey meets PM Netanyahu in Jerusalem.

    In its bluntest message yet, the US administration under Barack Obama, declared that Israel is on its own if it decides to go for Iran’s nuclear program with a military operation. Thursday, Aug. 30, Gen. Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, offered the view for the third time in as many weeks that an Israeli attack would “clearly delay but probably not destroy Iran’s nuclear program.”
    But this time, talking to journalists in London, he added impatiently: “I don't want to be complicit if they [Israel] choose to do it."
    Dempsey then astonished his audience by saying he did not know Iran's nuclear intentions, “as intelligence did not reveal intentions.” What was clear, he said, was that the "international coalition" applying pressure on Iran "could be undone if [Iran] was attacked prematurely."
    Sanctions against Iran were having an effect, he said, and they should be given a reasonable opportunity to succeed.
    The general’s timing on this assertion was unfortunate. As he spoke, the International Atomic Energy Agency reported a 31-percent jump in Iran’s 20 percent enriched uranium to 189.4 kilograms from 145 in May.
    It was therefore obvious to the world that Iran has not been deflected by sanctions one whit from its gallop towards a nuclear weapon capacity, a race that will continue so long as nothing effective is done to stop – or even delay - its progress.
    The mistimed Dempsey remarks, say debkafile’s military sources, are the clearest sign yet that President Obama is fed up with hearing about Iran and its nuclear aspirations. He wants to be left alone to make his own judgments and decisions on the intelligence put before him – even though he might be too slow to stop Iran becoming a nuclear-armed power.
    Israel, which is in direct line of an explicit Iranian threat of destruction, was therefore publicly slapped down by its best friend. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak and their predecessors were shown to have wasted three years in tireless efforts to solve the Iranian nuclear peril in accord with that friend. Washington has just dumped them.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Yeppers. BHO is way too predictable.

    ISRAEL
    Exclusive: U.S. Scales-Back Military Exercise with Israel, Affecting Potential Iran Strike

    A smaller U.S. contingent may make it more difficult for the Israeli government to launch a pre-emptive strike on Tehran's nuclear program.
    By KARL VICK AND AARON J. KLEIN | August 31, 2012


    Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/08/31/exc...#ixzz25GA0tDVi

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