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    Yeah, if you believe Muslims have an obligation to stamp out their extremist factions then it stands to reason that Republicans should also accept the responsibility for policing the extremism in their ranks.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Yeah, if you believe Muslims have an obligation to stamp out their extremist factions then it stands to reason that Republicans should also accept the responsibility for policing the extremism in their ranks.
    When will you call for the Democrats to do the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    When will you call for the Democrats to do the same thing?
    Next time they commit an act of domestic terror I will. But this alt-right thing falls on the Republican side of the aisle, and they really need to stop ignoring it. Democrats can't solve that problem, but the Republicans can do a lot more to take the wind out of their sails. Some of them have, but the current POTUS empowers them.

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    There was NO violence until the lefties showed up. The Virginia event was two right-wing groups with differing opinions on how to approach expressing their views. One group, with a more "forceful" viewpoint (composed of KKK and others), and the Alt-Right group which wants a strictly political approach to resolving issues. It was hoped the groups could find common ground and maybe work together. I am not a member of either group, nor will I be, but I have to question the reasoning of the leaders of the Alt-Right Group. They hurt their own cause by even attempting to reach out to those extremists.

    But, again, there was NO violence until the leftists showed up. And then that idiot from Ohio decided to take matters into his own hands to retaliate for the violence already perpetrated by "Black Lives Matter" and other violent lefty groups who attacked the peaceful rally in the park.

    But, leftist "protests" such as in DC and in Berkely turned violent on their own, w/o any opposition protestors.

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    Typical, blame the victim.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    When will you call for the Democrats to do the same thing?
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Next time they commit an act of domestic terror I will. But this alt-right thing falls on the Republican side of the aisle, and they really need to stop ignoring it. Democrats can't solve that problem, but the Republicans can do a lot more to take the wind out of their sails. Some of them have, but the current POTUS empowers them.
    It was not ignored. Trump's initial speech was going to be picked apart no matter what he said. His speech today will not be enough. For democrat/socialist and general Trump haters like you he can never say the right thing.

    Ferguson, Dallas, etc. were not condemned by Obama. He actually encouraged more violence. Were you upset then? Maybe you were, but the liberal media was not. Obama, Clinton, or CNN has never dared to call terrorism by name until this Virginia situation.

    They want so much to tie this to Trump, Trump supporters, Republicans, Whites, White protestants, Straight whites, etc..

    It is so sad to see our conservative political and Christian leaders who feel they MUST use this event to let people know what they stand for or don't stand for. You don't have to say it. We know you are not like the hate filled idiots in Ferguson and Dallas. It's insanity!

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    This was the line of choice each time police officers were killed during Obama's reign...

    “We have seen too many instances of what appears to be police officers interacting with individuals, primarily African-American, often poor, in ways that raise troubling questions,” Mr. Obama said. “This has been a slow-rolling crisis. This has been going on for a long time. This is not new, and we shouldn’t pretend that it’s new.”

    It was never questioned by the media or many who don't like the way Trump worded his first speech.

    It's madness!

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    It was not ignored. Trump's initial speech was going to be picked apart no matter what he said. His speech today will not be enough. For democrat/socialist and general Trump haters like you he can never say the right thing.

    Ferguson, Dallas, etc. were not condemned by Obama. He actually encouraged more violence. Were you upset then? Maybe you were, but the liberal media was not. Obama, Clinton, or CNN has never dared to call terrorism by name until this Virginia situation.

    They want so much to tie this to Trump, Trump supporters, Republicans, Whites, White protestants, Straight whites, etc..

    It is so sad to see our conservative political and Christian leaders who feel they MUST use this event to let people know what they stand for or don't stand for. You don't have to say it. We know you are not like the hate filled idiots in Ferguson and Dallas. It's insanity!
    Sure I was upset about Dallas.

    So I guess you don't think Muslims should vocally condemn the extremists? Cause it sounds like you feel that way about Republicans.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Sure I was upset about Dallas.

    So I guess you don't think Muslims should vocally condemn the extremists? Cause it sounds like you feel that way about Republicans.
    Trump did condemn them. He did it again today. You are not upset about "Republicans" not condemning you are upset that it didn't come in the right tone or verbiage according to the left wing socialists.

    I'm upset that people feel the need to make a statement saying, "This is not who we are!" Don't you see the insanity in people needing to point out they are not horrible murderers filled with hate of others with different skin color?

    It DOES NOT need to be said that we are not part of the White Nationalist movement!

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Trump did condemn them. He did it again today. You are not upset about "Republicans" not condemning you are upset that it didn't come in the right tone or verbiage according to the left wing socialists.

    I'm upset that people feel the need to make a statement saying, "This is not who we are!" Don't you see the insanity in people needing to point out they are not horrible murderers filled with hate of others with different skin color?

    It DOES NOT need to be said that we are not part of the White Nationalist movement!
    Muslims could say the same thing about the extremists.

    And it was good that Trump finally came out and said what should be said.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Muslims could say the same thing about the extremists.

    And it was good that Trump finally came out and said what should be said.
    Strange that you rarely hear a Muslim denounce violence, but every preacher in the south felt the need to preach to any potential KKKrs or White Supremecist in the congregation yesterday.

    What Trump said in the first statement was plenty for those of us not looking to grind an axe. Like I said, it didn't matter what he said it was not going to be enough.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Okay, Goosey, here ya go...

    last night in Richmond "an angry mob" of leftist engaged in violence and vandalism. Only minor injuries reported (the most serious of which was to a local reporter). Now....wonder what would have happened had any right-wingers shown up as counter-protestors. Do ya think the violence might have escalated? Probably. But, there were ONLY leftists there and still they managed to destroy property and hurt some people.

    I hope President Trump condemns them too!

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Okay, Goosey, here ya go...

    last night in Richmond "an angry mob" of leftist engaged in violence and vandalism. Only minor injuries reported (the most serious of which was to a local reporter). Now....wonder what would have happened had any right-wingers shown up as counter-protestors. Do ya think the violence might have escalated? Probably. But, there were ONLY leftists there and still they managed to destroy property and hurt some people.

    I hope President Trump condemns them too!
    D80, based on your reasoning, you must think that the Boston Tea Party with its angry mob was a bad thing because of the violence and destruction of private property.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Does anybody remember what Obama and Holder called the muslim jihady at Fort Hood when 13 people were killed and many more injured? They called it "work place violence" and I don't remember any liberal democrats complaining about it. This guy was shouting "allah okbar" while he was shooting people and they still called it workplace violence. Liberals just don't have any common sense. It doesn't bother them to lie to make their point. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.

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