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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Exactly.

    And, no they were not hurting...yet. Like I said the North wanted to shift that wealth from the South to them. The South wanted to leave and form our own nation BEFORE the massive transfer of wealth could occur. Southerners could see what was happening, and they weren't stupid. Lincoln, as a Republican, was seen as the leader who would accelerate the transformation of the nation, so his election in 1860 marked the end of the South. Time to leave.

    And, history has proven all of this to be true, and it is still true today. How did Louisiana go from being the 5th wealthiest state(out of 33 at that time) to 49th today? Transfer of wealth. What the Yankees didn't accomplish before the War of Northern Aggression economically, they have done so with brute military and now political force. Example: customers in Michigan pay LESS for Louisiana natural gas than we who live here do. It's the wanton seizure of natural resources and a transfer of wealth.

    Many decades ago I wrote a manuscript, in novel form, of what the Confederate States of America would look like today. In my book we won our independence and grew our own country. Might be time to dust that book off, finish it, and get published.
    I don't buy your theory. The amount of the tariff collected from the Southern States was not a significant sum compared to the amount of money those cotton producing States were making. The tariff was only on IMPORTED manufactured goods. Cotton exported to Europe paid NO tariff.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    I don't buy your theory. The amount of the tariff collected from the Southern States was not a significant sum compared to the amount of money those cotton producing States were making. The tariff was only on IMPORTED manufactured goods. Cotton exported to Europe paid NO tariff.

    http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/webl...-over-tariffs/
    The Jackson Free Press is a libtard rag advancing commie propaganda.

    Again, I'll post it (and for the last time), the concerns were for changes to come. Even that moronic article in the JFP speaks ONLY to what the conditions were in 1860. The rumblings in Congress, spurred by the big northern bankers (The Shadow of Power is a must read, if you can find a copy of it), were about changes to tariffs to come. How stupid must one be to only look at the policies as set in 1859 and say, hey, there was no reason for the South to be alarmed. I can't relate to that level of ignorance and thus have no argument. You and the idiot from the JFP will just have to wallow in your ignorance.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Those evil Northern bankers caused the War Between the States. I should have known.......
    It's the War of Northern Aggression

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Those evil Northern bankers caused the War Between the States. I should have known.......
    Makes more sense than thousands of Confederate soldiers fighting and dying for a cause they did not concern them at all, which was slavery.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    About as much sense as a bunch of Southerners voting for a lunatic that doesn't share their values.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    About as much sense as a bunch of Southerners voting for a lunatic that doesn't share their values.
    It's been explained to you countless times by several different posters on BBB, but for some reason, you refuse to listen. Southerners voted for Trump because they're sick of the corrupt DC establishment and the corrupt mainstream media. It was their (and my own) way of saying FU to both, and we're just getting started. The establishment, as we know it, will never again be as powerful as it had gotten. The people that make up that establishment know this. That's why they're pulling out all stops to try to destroy Trump. They will not succeed, as this genie will not be put back into its bottle. Why you refuse to call out the corrupt media and the corrupt establishment is beyond me. Is Trump perfect? Hell no. Nobody ever said he was, but he was the ONLY candidate that was not a part of that corrupt club in DC. What we're witnessing isn't the beginning of another civil war, it's the beginning of another revolution. The crooked bastards in DC and in the media have been exposed and we're done with both. "Don't Tread on Me" is the battle cry of all the Patriots that elected Trump and we will never surrender to those that would deny us our liberty. Everyone has a choice to make. Standing up to a corrupt government takes courage. Not everyone is up to that challenge. Join us Guisslapp. Your very liberty is at stake.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Makes more sense than thousands of Confederate soldiers fighting and dying for a cause they did not concern them at all, which was slavery.
    Why soldiers fight is separate from why the war is waged.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    About as much sense as a bunch of Southerners voting for a lunatic that doesn't share their values.
    You mean Hillary?
    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Why soldiers fight is separate from why the war is waged.
    No, soldiers would not have died for the rights of a few. It was about their state...state's rights. Its almost impossible for people to accept that today because the past three generations have been indoctrinated to believe it was all about slavery.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    It's been explained to you countless times by several different posters on BBB, but for some reason, you refuse to listen. Southerners voted for Trump because they watch too much FoxNews and live inside the extreme right wing media bubble.
    FIFY.

    And the idea of voting to say "FU" is the purest expression of a tribalistic mentality as it gets.

    I know that is why you guys voted that way and it reflects at least a mild state of psychosis - and I really think it comes down to your media consumption. When it comes down to it your hate for the "establishment" could very well exceed my hate for Trump.

    The difference is that "The Establisment", even with its numerous problems, is far more ethical and moral than this narcissistic charlatan that you guys voted into office.

    I think you guys may even know that or are at least starting to see the signs of it, but because this is all about us vs them (tribalism) you are hell bent on going down with the ship instead of turning it around.

    Again, I know you all didn't start out this psychotic, but I have witnessed a new mass psychosis phenomenon emerging the last 5 or so years from those that I know watch FoxNews. You guys have been deceived and ultimately let down by the media you chose to trust, and I don't put all that blame on you.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Leave it to a lying liberal to post a "FAKE" quote and attribute it to a conservative with an opposing view from his. You people ALWAYS resort to lies and distortion because you're all full of crap.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    Leave it to a lying liberal to post a "FAKE" quote and attribute it to a conservative with an opposing view from his. You people ALWAYS resort to lies and distortion because you're all full of crap.
    Don't take this politics stuff too seriously. Smile and the world smiles with you.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    Leave it to a lying liberal to post a "FAKE" quote and attribute it to a conservative with an opposing view from his. You people ALWAYS resort to lies and distortion because you're all full of crap.
    When he posts FIFY (fixed it for you), he's not attributing it to you, he's attributing it to himself.
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    Re: Chaos in VA

    This could easily happen.

    Idaho state Rep. Bryan Zollinger: ‘Plausible’ that Charlottesville violence was a setup


    By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Monday, August 21, 2017

    An Idaho state representative says it’s “plausible” that the deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, earlier this month was orchestrated to make President Trump look like a racist.

    State Rep. Bryan Zollinger, a Republican, on Thursday shared an article on Facebook by American Thinker, titled, “Charlottesville and Its Aftermath: What if It Was a Setup?”
    The article suggests, without evidence, that former President Barack Obama, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, Charlottesville Mayor Michael Signer, and billionaire investor George Soros could somehow be connected in planning and orchestrating the clashes in Charlottesville, which turned deadly on Aug. 12 after a reported Nazi sympathizer purposely rammed his car into a group of counter-protesters, killing one and injuring 19 others.

    “The ridiculous campaign by virtually every media outlet, every Democrat and far too many squishy Republicans to label Trump some kind of racist and Nazi sympathizer is beginning to have the stink of an orchestrated smear,” Patricia McCarthy wrote. “The conflagration in Charlottesville is beginning to feel like a set-up, perhaps weeks or months in the planning.”
    Mr. Zollinger, in a follow-up comment on his post, said the conspiracy theory could be true.
    “I’m not saying it is true, but I am suggesting that it is completely plausible,” he said, adding that “many of the protesters were Soros-funded.”



    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ible-that-cha/

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    The key part of that article was the "without evidence" right before the bolded part.

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    Re: Chaos in VA

    Can it get any crazier than this? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...tm_medium=push. Does ESPN think the alt-left will try to kill this guy because of his name, he's Asian, so he can't be a white nationalist and he sure as hell didn't serve in the confederate army.

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