Civil War monument topic

[johnnylightnin]

This is the rub...Who is defending Nazi Scum? You used "many" as a description. Do you know anybody personally who would support a Nazi or a White Nationalist? This whole thing was immediately turned into an opportunity to group Trump and Trump supporters as Nazi sympathizers and White Nationalist. I could see it coming way back when the "Alt Right" term began to pop up.

It's an indirect defense, but "they're bad too" is a defense. Insisting on juxtaposing Nazi's with Left Wing terrorists effectively diminishes the critique of the right-wing terror...I assume you will disagree, but I bet if you were to change out the groups in question, you would see what I'm talking about.

Further, Alt-right didn't "pop-up" Trump invited them into the process the day he hired Steve Bannon. Why do you think Bannon was hired? You really think Trump's walk-back was about espousing truth? I think it was about maintaining a well organized and motivated voting block.

[saltydawg]

This is the kind of CSA monument that I think isn't racially motivated. I fully support honoring the soldiers who fought for the South, many of whom were draftees.

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[DawgyNWindow]

A life-size statue of Clinton stands at the corner of 7th and Saint Joseph Street in Rapid City.

To be fair, Rapid City has statues of all the past presidents on their downtown street corners. I was there just a few months ago.

I just don't understand why we honor politicians so much in this country. Most of them are scumbags just like Clinton.

Wouldn't a better likeness of him include a cigar in his mouth?

[DONW]

Nobody is going to dig up Confederate soldiers. Get a grip.

Time to follow the advice of General Lee and put all the Confederacy "stuff" in a museum for future generations to understand.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...der-grave.html

[ChuckK3]

Some poignant thoughts from Shelby Foote:

http://midtownrepublican.com/archives/18175

Thank you for sharing this, I'd not seen it before. Very good read.

[DONW]

Charles Barkley comments on tearing down statues. http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/08/...ng-like-526759

[JuBru]

I'm glad I'll be spending a week in DC soon. May be my last chance to see anything.

[dawg80]

Confederate generals are not idols.

Not to a one-world libtard like you. But to people who understand history they are.

[JuBru]

Not to a one-world libtard like you. But to people who understand history they are.

Still not a liberal. And your understanding of history is tenuous at best.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

This should really be put under "Another Dem Double Standard". She is such a phony b****.

WHICH STATUES PELOSI WANTS OUT OF CAPITOL

'No room for violent bigotry,' she decides after 30 years in Washington

Published: 12 hours ago


WASHINGTON – Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is angry.

After serving for 30 years in the Capitol, she decided Friday enough is enough.
No, she’s not quitting.
She’s determined, she says, to see all the Confederate statues in Statuary Hall removed – ironically, nine out of 10 being members of her own party, as were all prominent politicians from the South.
“There is no room for celebrating the violent bigotry of the men of the Confederacy in the hallowed halls of the United States Capitol or in places of honor across the country,” the current House minority leader said.
So which statues does she want eradicated?
1. Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy – a Democrat from Mississippi.
2. Alexander Stephens, vice president of the Confederacy – a Democrat from Georgia.
3. General Robert E. Lee, a Virginian who never dabbled in politics.
4. General Joseph Wheeler, an Alabama Democrat.
5. James Zachariah George, a Democrat from Mississippi.
6. Wade Hampton III, a Democrat from South Carolina.
7. General Edmund Kirby Smith, a Democrat from Florida.
8. Zebulon Baird Vance, a Democrat from North Carolina.
9. John E. Kenna, a Democrat from West Virginia.
10. Jabez Lamar Monroe Curry, a Democrat from Georgia.
“Nancy Pelosi has been walking through those halls of the Capitol for 30 years, and all of a sudden, she wants to see these statues removed,” said Rush Limbaugh. “Do I have to even explain how ridiculous that is?”
The total of 100 statues on display are part of the National Statuary Hall Collection and aren’t chosen by Congress. Each state contributes two statues, chosen by that state’s government, according to the architect of the Capitol.


"Ironically, during the Civil War and for more than 100 years afterwards, the Democratic Party dominated Southern politics.It was America’s first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, who issued the Emancipation Proclamation, the first major step toward eliminating slavery from the states.

Over the last 100 years, Democrats have controlled Congress almost twice as long as Republicans and there have been 35 years during which they controlled both houses and the presidency. But only in 2017 did the Confederate statues in the Capitol become an issue for them.

Some suggest it’s a way to help eradicate the strong Democrat connection with the Confederacy – something about which Americans are oblivious. Not only did Republicans lead the charge against slavery, they also were targeted for death and intimidation by the Ku Klux Klan, which represented the military wing of the Democratic Party.

But today, Democrat lawmakers are accusing President Trump of being proponent of white supremacy, even though he has repeatedly condemned the white supremacists and neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Virginia.
“The Confederate statues in the halls of Congress have always been reprehensible,” Pelosi said in a statement. “If Republicans are serious about rejecting white supremacy, I call upon Speaker Ryan to join Democrats to remove the Confederate statues from the Capitol immediately.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/which-sta...Lwe3LSfbcqK.99

[saltydawg]

Better late than never.

Anyway, both political parties have changed over the years. The funny thing is that they have both have almost done a 180 on key issues.

[PawDawg]

The funny thing is that they have both have almost done a 180 on key issues.

Like what?

[saltydawg]

Like what?

Like a balanced budget.

[DONW]

This should really be put under "Another Dem Double Standard". She is such a phony b****.

WHICH STATUES PELOSI WANTS OUT OF CAPITOL

'No room for violent bigotry,' she decides after 30 years in Washington

Published: 12 hours ago


WASHINGTON – Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is angry.

After serving for 30 years in the Capitol, she decided Friday enough is enough.
No, she’s not quitting.
She’s determined, she says, to see all the Confederate statues in Statuary Hall removed – ironically, nine out of 10 being members of her own party, as were all prominent politicians from the South.
“There is no room for celebrating the violent bigotry of the men of the Confederacy in the hallowed halls of the United States Capitol or in places of honor across the country,” the current House minority leader said.
So which statues does she want eradicated?
1. Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy – a Democrat from Mississippi.
2. Alexander Stephens, vice president of the Confederacy – a Democrat from Georgia.
3. General Robert E. Lee, a Virginian who never dabbled in politics.
4. General Joseph Wheeler, an Alabama Democrat.
5. James Zachariah George, a Democrat from Mississippi.
6. Wade Hampton III, a Democrat from South Carolina.
7. General Edmund Kirby Smith, a Democrat from Florida.
8. Zebulon Baird Vance, a Democrat from North Carolina.
9. John E. Kenna, a Democrat from West Virginia.
10. Jabez Lamar Monroe Curry, a Democrat from Georgia.
“Nancy Pelosi has been walking through those halls of the Capitol for 30 years, and all of a sudden, she wants to see these statues removed,” said Rush Limbaugh. “Do I have to even explain how ridiculous that is?”
The total of 100 statues on display are part of the National Statuary Hall Collection and aren’t chosen by Congress. Each state contributes two statues, chosen by that state’s government, according to the architect of the Capitol.


"Ironically, during the Civil War and for more than 100 years afterwards, the Democratic Party dominated Southern politics.It was America’s first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, who issued the Emancipation Proclamation, the first major step toward eliminating slavery from the states.

Over the last 100 years, Democrats have controlled Congress almost twice as long as Republicans and there have been 35 years during which they controlled both houses and the presidency. But only in 2017 did the Confederate statues in the Capitol become an issue for them.

Some suggest it’s a way to help eradicate the strong Democrat connection with the Confederacy – something about which Americans are oblivious. Not only did Republicans lead the charge against slavery, they also were targeted for death and intimidation by the Ku Klux Klan, which represented the military wing of the Democratic Party.

But today, Democrat lawmakers are accusing President Trump of being proponent of white supremacy, even though he has repeatedly condemned the white supremacists and neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Virginia.
“The Confederate statues in the halls of Congress have always been reprehensible,” Pelosi said in a statement. “If Republicans are serious about rejecting white supremacy, I call upon Speaker Ryan to join Democrats to remove the Confederate statues from the Capitol immediately.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/which-sta...Lwe3LSfbcqK.99

If the farleft is trying to get away from people that remind them of slavery, they need to get as far as they can away from the democrat party. That's what your post shows to me.

[saltydawg]

This is the kind of CSA monument that I think isn't racially motivated. I fully support honoring the soldiers who fought for the South, many of whom were draftees.

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Tyler, do you recognize this monument?