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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    Actually kneeling is submissive -

    Always has been - always will be

    Whether it's before a monarch, a power figure, an owner or God Almighty...
    Is submission a sign of disrespect?
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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Is submission a sign of disrespect?
    It's a sign of submission -
    ''Don't be a bad dagh..."

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    It's a sign of submission -
    Is that a no?

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    It's not a sign of respect in many instances....

    And under stated and accepted etiquette for the Flag and Anthem - it is clearly a sign of disrespect

    That's what most fail to recognize

    If you are going against accepted protocol and etiquette in ANY SITUATION - then it is a sign of disrespect
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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Really disappointed that you think racism can be clever.

    The kneeling came about because of the suggestion of Boyer. Are you saying he would suggest something that he thought would be disrespectful? Or that Kap was being disrespectful by modifying his protest form at Boyer's suggestion?
    Really disappointed that you completely misread my comments. I don't think racism or his racism is clever. I never said anything of the sort. As a matter of fact I agreed that putting Lynch and Kaepernick together was clearly racist or at least had racist undertones. Your viewing through your bubble again.

    I'm not saying anything about Boyer and Kaps compromise. But since you asked, I think Boyer asked Kap to do something that was less disrespectful than what he was doing. And I agree with him. Sitting is more disrespectful than kneeling. Doesn't mean it's not still disrespectful but its certainly better. I have actually said before that I don't think enough attention is paid to the fact that Kap made this compromise early on. I have also said that I think kneeling before or after the anthem would be an even better compromise.

    You are assigning meaning to my statements that isn't there.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    If you are going against accepted protocol and etiquette in ANY SITUATION - then it is a sign of disrespect
    Time is your friend. Impulse is your enemy. -John Bogle

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Nope - it's pretty much uniformly accepted - we are not talking "white's only" drinking fountains or theatre seats here...

    Especially as something as simple as etiquette where the flag and anthem are concerned

    There is a litany of accepted guidelines on observance of every thing concerning the flag

    It's really no different than going into a place of worship an cursing at the top of your lungs to a lot of people...
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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    It's really no different than going into a place of worship an cursing at the top of your lungs to a lot of people...
    Had he chosen the same platform to advocate for better benefits for veterans, he would've been applauded. Talking heads have made this about the flag because it's an easier issue to tackle than what the protest is actually about.
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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Talking heads have made this about the flag because it's an easier issue to tackle than what the protest is actually about.
    Kapernick made it about the flag and his hate for The USA. The sheeple followed. Now they are saying it's about something they have no ideas on how to fix. It was ALWAYS about the flag and country.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Had he chosen the same platform to advocate for better benefits for veterans, he would've been applauded. Talking heads have made this about the flag because it's an easier issue to tackle than what the protest is actually about.
    I don't know any veteran who would of advocated disrespecting the flag or the anthem as a just means to their end...

    And there are more than a few on here who can chime in if they wish

    I've got two brothers who have done a combined 6 tours and have close two 50 years of combined service between them - and trust me, y'all don't want to know their stance on this...
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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Had he chosen the same platform to advocate for better benefits for veterans, he would've been applauded.
    Interesting that you chose one of the issues Trump has executive ordered his way to make a difference on while Trump haters everywhere have applauded the system that keeps feeding the corruption. My point is don't expect vets to take a knee on this one.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    I don't know any veteran who would of advocated disrespecting the flag or the anthem as a just means to their end...
    Taking a knee was Nate Boyer's (a veteran) suggestion.
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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Kapernick made it about the flag and his hate for The USA.
    Nope...Hannity and Rush made it about the flag...and the sheeple followed!

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Had he chosen the same platform to advocate for better benefits for veterans, he would've been applauded. Talking heads have made this about the flag because it's an easier issue to tackle than what the protest is actually about.
    Some talking heads have said that including the one you linked earlier. Maybe so, maybe not. I think people would still be asking him to find another form of protest. The discourse would have been more civilized.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Nope...Hannity and Rush made it about the flag...and the sheeple followed!

    I hope you are saying that in Jest.

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