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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post

    Of course, I'm not offended by what the players choose to do. For a nation of Baptists and assorted evangelicals who rebelled against the liturgical structure of the Catholic church, everyone sure has strong opinions on appropriate physical liturgical posture.
    That's a very strange comparison. The pledge and/or national anthem has never been about worship. It's about respect, remembrance, and thankfulness.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    That's a very strange comparison. The pledge and/or national anthem has never been about worship. It's about respect, remembrance, and thankfulness.
    Everything is about worship

    My point there is that Americans are typically resistant to liturgical structures in explicit worship (things like clerical collars, robes, formal high church stuff), but we see vestiges of those things reflected in our approach to how we show respect, remembrance, and thankfulness. Stand with your hand over your heart, in this specific way, with this specific attitude. Don't kneel, despite the respectful attitude that normally would convey.

    It's just a funny juxaposition to me.

    And I'm not saying I agree with the position of the protestors, before yall lynch me. I do think we need a bit thicker skin.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    Everything is about worship

    My point there is that Americans are typically resistant to liturgical structures in explicit worship (things like clerical collars, robes, formal high church stuff), but we see vestiges of those things reflected in our approach to how we show respect, remembrance, and thankfulness. Stand with your hand over your heart, in this specific way, with this specific attitude. Don't kneel, despite the respectful attitude that normally would convey.

    It's just a funny juxaposition to me.

    And I'm not saying I agree with the position of the protestors, before yall lynch me. I do think we need a bit thicker skin.
    I'm not with you on this one and I see your point(s). I think organized religion and the rituals are a beautiful thing and I grew up in a country Southern Baptist Church.

    I was taught about respect for the flag and our vets at a very young age. It was always about respect, remembrance, and thankfulness.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    I'm not with you on this one and I see your point(s). I think organized religion and the rituals are a beautiful thing and I grew up in a country Southern Baptist Church.

    I was taught about respect for the flag and our vets at a very young age. It was always about respect, remembrance, and thankfulness.
    I tried to phrase it in a way that wouldnt offend everyone. Ironically.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    I wonder if those might be right who believe this whole thing started because Kaepernick was pouting and disinterested because he was not starting, so when asked about why he was kneeling during the anthem he made up a quick story.
    Last edited by Tech77; 10-10-2017 at 03:37 PM.
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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    I wonder if those might be right who believe this whole thing started because Kaepernick was pouting and disinterested because he was not starting, so when asked about why he was kneeling during the anthem he made up a quick story.
    I think he at least believes his cause was right, but I definitely agree this would never have been an issue were he a good quarterback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    I think he at least believes his cause was right, but I definitely agree this would never have been an issue were he a good quarterback.
    Kapernick grew up with white privileged in white home . I defer to Guislapp as to how he turned out to be such a thug.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Kapernick grew up with white privileged in white home . I defer to Guislapp as to how he turned out to be such a thug.
    What makes him a thug?

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    What makes him a thug?
    What makes him a model citizen? He publicly stated his hate for America more than one time. He wishes death on cops. Need more evidence?

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    What makes him a model citizen? He publicly stated his hate for America more than one time. He wishes death on cops. Need more evidence?
    Quotes?

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Quotes?
    You've read them. I've posted them along with others. He is a POS thug and you know it. He destroys your white privilege theory.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    You've read them. I've posted them along with others. He is a POS thug and you know it. He destroys your white privilege theory.
    Wishes death to cops? Not sure I have seen that one.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post

    And I'm not saying I agree with the position of the protestors, before yall lynch me. I do think we need a bit thicker skin.
    Nope. WE need much smarter players. Most of those guys are dumber than cardboard.

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    Re: Turn Off the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Wishes death to cops? Not sure I have seen that one.
    Seriously??

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