What is Systemic Racism?

[johnnylightnin]

So another way to interpret what you just said is that you want equal "outcomes".. You will never achieve that in a free society. People are not equal, that's nature's law (science) .. not mine..

So, logically, you must believe there is something inherent in the races that are under represented as you believe there is an equality of opportunity right?

[Guisslapp]

Good question.. I honestly don't know.. I do have 3 very good friends who are black male pilots. I know we have some black female pilots, just no idea what percentage it is.. There are a lot of women pilots.

No where close to 50% women pilots, though.

A little over 5 years ago, fewer than 5 percent of commercial airline pilots were women, fewer than 3 percent of pilots were black, and black women represented a small fraction of a percent.

[Guisslapp]

So another way to interpret what you just said is that you want equal "outcomes".. You will never achieve that in a free society. People are not equal, that's nature's law (science) .. not mine..

That is not what I said. Not all people are going to achieve equal outcomes.

But the distribution of outcomes should not correlate to race.

[glm47]

So, logically, you must believe there is something inherent in the races that are under represented as you believe there is an equality of opportunity right?

Yes, the nuclear family.

[PawDawg]

No where close to 50% women pilots, though.

A little over 5 years ago, fewer than 5 percent of commercial airline pilots were women, fewer than 3 percent of pilots were black, and black women represented a small fraction of a percent.

Your argument implies unfair hiring practices in the airline industry. Otherwise, you need be making the same argument for other professions like medical fields or even sales.

Do blacks lack opportunities in nursing or pre-med?

[PawDawg]

So, logically, you must believe there is something inherent in the races that are under represented as you believe there is an equality of opportunity right?

You assume they are trying to get certain jobs. How do you propose forcing them to try?

[Guisslapp]

Your argument implies unfair hiring practices in the airline industry. Otherwise, you need be making the same argument for other professions like medical fields or even sales.

Do blacks lack opportunities in nursing or pre-med?

No, it doesn’t imply unfair hiring.

[PawDawg]

No, it doesn’t imply unfair hiring.

Yes it does. It certainly does not imply unfair opportunities for women, blacks, or black women.

[Guisslapp]

Yes it does. It certainly does not imply unfair opportunities for women, blacks, or black women.

Why do you think there are fewer blacks, particularly black women, applying for jobs in commercial aviation?

[Guisslapp]

You can’t just snap your fingers and solve the problem of systemic racism that was created over centuries. It is going to take a lot of work.

[glm47]

You can’t just snap your fingers and solve the problem of systemic racism that was created over centuries. It is going to take a lot of work.

Bless your heart.

[FriscoDog]

Why do you think there are fewer blacks, particularly black women, applying for jobs in commercial aviation?

Two reasons: One, they just aren't applying for positions

Two: There are two ways to become a pilot in the airlines today: Have enough money/loans to get a 150K flight training so that you can get your ATP, or join military as a pilot and have them train you, and when you obligations are up, join an airline.



Just like any STEM major or profession, it takes effort in order to make it in those areas. My son's HS class had a large percentage of students who were going to college for engineering.. same with my daughter for nursing... only a small percentage of those who started, finished in their major for probably a number of reasons.. It wasn't like they did not have an opportunity to get the degree, they did.. Either it was "too hard", decided that it wasn't what they expected, or they did not want to spend the time and effort needed to complete the program. This is no different than medical school, professional sports, special forces etc.

[dawg80]

You can’t just snap your fingers and solve the problem of systemic racism that was created over centuries. It is going to take a lot of work.

So...when will the NBA's rosters match the % of the races?

Just asking for a friend.

[DawgyNWindow]

You should’ve included Johnny Lightweight.

As any rational, sane person understands, there will always be people, of all colors, that are racist. There will always be inequality no matter your race. It’s how you deal with it that defines you as a person.

The idiocy that Goober, turbo, and Lightweight are advocating is just another form of discrimination and inequality. The real question is whether they’re just too stupid to understand that or they really support it.

Nailed it.

[Guisslapp]

So...when will the NBA's rosters match the % of the races?

Just asking for a friend.

NBA is nearly 20 percent white out of 450 players. Way higher than the percent of blacks in motor racing.