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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    Hopefully we will not get Justin Elliott again, I would rather have Ken Antee.
    Is this Elliott's first year as a white hat? He lost control of the UAB game early and had no control when the clock ticked to zero. Of course COYHCSH didn't either.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    I have noticed Antee in the Tech games he's called, and I really haven't noticed a bias.
    His bias is usually obvious no calls. Calls that you see him looking at, but refuses to call like holding or interference. He will also throw a flag from 40 yards away when it is not his call to make.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    As most of you know, I have an employee from New Orleans that has been a "white hat" for the last 20 years. Just this fall he moved up to the video booth....and he loves it. He gets paid the same as the guys on the field (about $2k per game, which includes his expenses), and the game preparation required is nothing compared to what the "on-field" officials must go through. He and his new crew are contracted every week to work games for the Big 12, the MWC and the Southland conference. For instance, last week they worked and Abilene Christian game, and last night they worked the Univ of New Mexico vs Colorado St game in Albuquerque. Next week they are working the TCU game at OU in Norman. (Last year, he and his crew worked our UMASS game up in New England.)

    Anyway, I was talking to him about the different officiating crews in college football, and the poor calls we are seeing this year for "targeting". He said the "targeting" call is being misused far too much this year, and that it's the biggest problem in college football. Furthermore, he said most of the time it's not targeting at all. But he also said that if we have game officials we don't like, it's VERY EASY to get them off your schedule. He said the referee crews are all contract employees, and that they all work in an "association" with other crews. He said the head coaches and AD's for any university have a ton of power, and can EASILY have a crew removed from their schedule. And if it's just not working out, they can also EASILY hire another "association".

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    As most of you know, I have an employee from New Orleans that has been a "white hat" for the last 20 years. Just this fall he moved up to the video booth....and he loves it. He gets paid the same as the guys on the field (about $2k per game, which includes is expenses). He and his new crew are contracted to work games for the Big 12, the MWC and the Southland. Last week they worked and Abilene Christian game, and today they are working a Univ of New Mexico game in Albuquerque. Next week they are working the TCU game at OU in Norman.

    Anyway, I was talking to him about the different officiating crews in college football, and the poor calls this year for "targeting". He said the "targeting" call is being misused far too much, and that it's the biggest problem in college football. Furthermore, he said most of the time it's not targeting at all. But he also said that if we have game officials we don't like, it's VERY EASY to get them off your schedule. He said the referee crews are all contract employees, and that they all work in a "association". He said the head coaches and AD's for any university can EASILY have a crew removed from their schedule. And if it's jsut not working out, they can also EASILY hire another "association".
    He is absolutely right on this. And targeting is the most inconsistently enforced (or not enforced) rule in the game. One tackle will be a completely questionable call that is enforced with an immediate ejection plus a 1/2 game suspension in the player's next game, while a much more 'textbook' targeting infraction IN THE SAME CONTEST will get completely overturned. It is absurd and it is one of the many NCAA FBS "inconsistencies' driving fans away from the game.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by DogsWin View Post
    He is absolutely right on this. And targeting is the most inconsistently enforced (or not enforced) rule in the game. One tackle will be a completely questionable call that is enforced with an immediate ejection plus a 1/2 game suspension in the player's next game, while a much more 'textbook' targeting infraction IN THE SAME CONTEST will get completely overturned. It is absurd and it is one of the many NCAA FBS "inconsistencies' driving fans away from the game.
    Yeah, I discussed Cooper's targeting call from the UAB game with him. He agreed it's getting called far too much, and based upon the fact that the UAB receiver had already tucked it, turned up field and run 5 yards, it probably shouldn't have been called. He said referees are confused and many don't understand the rule. Remember, this is info from an INSIDER!

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Confirms the lack of concern of our athletic department. Sports aren’t everything in life, but have some pride and backbone.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    The game as a whole has gotten too wussy. Watched a little of the SEC Classic Channel the other night and it had a 1980 UGA game with Hershel Walker vs. Tennessee. Walker was driven out of bounds by a host of UT tacklers and after he was a full yard out two more UT defenders flew in and hit him. I was like, "where's the flag!?" as if I was watching the game live. No flags, and no one, including Walker, got upset about it. Just lined up and played the next down.

    We have gotten accustomed to the new WUSSY rules and expect a flag every time someone gets hit, even a little late. Or, OMG! if a defender lays some wood on a clean tackle!

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Is this Elliott's first year as a white hat? He lost control of the UAB game early and had no control when the clock ticked to zero. Of course COYHCSH didn't either.
    He has been a white hat since at least 2015.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by BhadDawg View Post
    Dang...This board is supposed to have all of the answers!
    Only a couple of our members have all the answers. I'm not one of them - in fact, I don't have any answers.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Noli in Boca working UNT at FAU. Gautreaux is in Charlotte.

    Looks like we get Antee or one team will get someone they have seen far too recently.
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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Antee as expected.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    Antee as expected.
    He refused to throw a flag for holding all night. The 15yd hand to the face on us on the last USM drive could have been offset by at least 3 holding calls on that one play.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    He refused to throw a flag for holding all night. The 15yd hand to the face on us on the last USM drive could have been offset by at least 3 holding calls on that one play.
    There is a center judge back there who could also call holding if the calls were there. The hands to the face is a point of emphasis, and it was a blatant one that had to be called.

    Officiating did not beat Tech last night. And nobody better say it did.

    It may not be saying much, but at this point Antee and crew are probably no worse than top 2 in C-USA. Before this week Rodney Burnette would have made it a top 3, but failure to know how to apply the 10-second runoff rule at the end of the game that gave ODU a play it didn't deserve ended that.

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    It wasn’t even the missed calls or bad calls that pissed me off last night. It was the horrible spotting of the football that we never challenged! They were short of the mark by at least a half yard right in front of me but got the first on the bad spot. No challenge, sticks where rushed forward and USM scored on the very next play. The one horrible no PI call where our receiver was clothes lined was the point where I knew we were in trouble.

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    Re: C-UAB Referees

    Quote Originally Posted by FriscoDawg View Post
    There is a center judge back there who could also call holding if the calls were there. The hands to the face is a point of emphasis, and it was a blatant one that had to be called.

    Officiating did not beat Tech last night. And nobody better say it did.

    It may not be saying much, but at this point Antee and crew are probably no worse than top 2 in C-USA.
    Nobody is blaming officiating so chill out. If you think the holding is okay, but the hands to the face is not then I question your objectivity. I'm not sure why you have such a crush on Antee, but he hates Tech. You can't deny that. He is horrible!

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