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    Re: Russia Collusion Found

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Dude. Did you just take up for antifa? This isn't antifa vs neo-Nazis, ya know. You don't have to pick a side here if they are both idiots (unless you really LIKE one side, which is how it appears now).

    Logic has truly left the building!
    How could you possibly read that post as taking up for Antifa? I asked a question.

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    Re: Russia Collusion Found

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    BTW, Hitler/Nazi were "socialist" even per Hitler and his minions own words. The neo-Nazi movement in this county is run by and are the liberals/Dems and antifa.
    Hitler hated socialism.

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    Re: Russia Collusion Found

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    BTW, Hitler/Nazi were "socialist" even per Hitler and his minions own words. The neo-Nazi movement in this county is run by and are the liberals/Dems and antifa. And they are also behind the "commies" in this country; funded impart by socialist and democrat buddy George Soros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Agree to disagree. You can quote your liberal blog and I'll quote facts.

    MYTH BUSTED: ACTUALLY, YES, HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST LIBERAL

    If you take nothing else from this post, just remember Hitler was a socialist

    Louder With Crowder | COURTNEY KIRCHOFF - JANUARY 29, 2016


    A favorite tactic employed by leftists is to describe the Nazis as “right wing,” with Adolf Hitler, their leader, as the grand leader of this “right wing” movement. Rewriting history is pretty common for leftists, as their history is littered with injustice (the KKK was founded by Democrats, did you know?). Injustices they claim to fight against today. Awkward.
    But thanks to this nifty thing called “history” in combination with “the internet,” we can bust this myth once and for all. Thoroughly. Or until a leftist insists on ignoring it. Then we’ll hold them down and tape their eyes open. Just kidding, that’s only what a leftist would do.

    Adolf Hitler wasn’t “right wing.” If you take nothing else from this post, just remember Hitler was a socialist. With terrible facial hair. There’s an easy way to remember it, too. NAZI stands for National Socialist German Workers‘ Party. Associate it with blunt mustaches.

    What does National Socialist German Worker’s Party mean? Glad you asked. Is it different from “Democratic socialism”? Only in semantics. A Democracy is mob rule, which is why America is actually a constitutional, representative republic, NOT a democracy. A representative republic protects the minority from the majority, whereas a democracy is the rule of the majority. Leftists get caught up in words, getting tripped up over “National Socialism” as opposed to “Democrat Socialism.” But it’s just that. Semantics. So when Hitler ginned up hatred for the Jews, he could get the mob to agree with him. He could get the mob to believe him. There were no representatives to stop Hitler. He was one man helming the desperation of a majority of people. Spot the difference?

    When we examine Hitler’s Nazi Germany through the lens of history, most, if not all of us, think of the Holocaust. In fact the holocaust might be the only thing we associate with Hitler’s Nazis. We’ve all been told of the Jews being marched off to death camps where they were worked, tortured, then gassed. We’ve also heard of the experiments conducted by Hitler’s Dr. Mengele. All terrible practices which we rightly find horrifying. Unless you’re one of those people who think Planned Parenthood is great.

    What we don’t often hear or learn about is how Hitler ruled the rest of Germany, what his domestic policies were for the German people he didn’t march off to death camps. Hitler’s domestic, socialist policies will be the focus of this post. Trigger warning: they’re eerily similar to what American Democrats tout today. Double trigger warning? He initially had the support of the mob of people. So replace many of Hitler’s policies with something you hear from Bernie Sanders…
    Brief Historical Background on Hitler…
    Germany lost World War I. As such, Germany was in a state of economic and national depression. Not totally unusual for losing a giant war. But the depression was a long, drawn out one (15 years) leaving the German people poor, hungry, desperate, lacking any confidence. Then along came a young man named Adolf Hitler…
    Hitler was a powerful and spellbinding speaker who attracted a wide following of Germans desperate for change. He promised the disenchanted a better life and a new and glorious Germany. The Nazis appealed especially to the unemployed, young people, and members of the lower middle class (small store owners, office employees, craftsmen, and farmers).
    Human beings may advance technologically, but spiritually? Not so much. In fact I’d contest we rarely learn our lessons when choosing our leaders. Especially charismatic ones. If a man (or woman) can speak eloquently, with confidence, we cannot help but be enthralled. We often follow along, like the town’s children following the pied piper.

    Employment for All

    After that depression, Hitler made a huge promise to his people: employment for all. How did he do it? Roads and infrastructure:
    As Fuhrer, Hitler’s first priority was jobs, or the lack of them. German unemployment had peaked at 6 million due to the Depression devastating the economy. With innovative public works schemes such as the building of autobahns, Hitler put every German back to work. He also advocated schemes such as KdF – Strength Through Joy – which gave workers increased benefitsfor increased levels of production. This policy was popular and increasingly with the proletariat who had seen their country decimated by the depression…
    By putting people back to work and making huge public spending, inflation was bound to happen. However, Hitler kept this under control by not allowing wages to rise with prices. This may have been one unpopular aspect of Hitler’s economic policy but there were many that the people supported.
    So Hitler created jobs…through government. While at the same time, he criticized certain segments of the population, demeaning them, blaming the countries woes upon them. The rich, they just ruin everything. Sound familiar?

    Big Education

    If you haven’t seen it yet, go watch WW2 Surivor’s Account Draws Chilling Similarities between Nazism and Liberalism.
    When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.
    Public education, where children are at school all day long, with state-funded and state-sponsored curriculum… convinced yet?

    Nationalized Healthcare

    Also from the WW2 Surivor’s accounting of Nazism:
    After Hitler’s health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.
    As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.
    Do I really need to write commentary on this one? Really?

    Gun Control

    Yes, Germany had gun control. It started before Hitler with a national gun registry:
    …in the 1920s in the chaos of Germany’s Weimar Republic, which opted for gun registration. Law-abiding persons complied with the law, but the Communists and Nazis committing acts of political violence did not.
    Here’s what happened as a result:
    In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.
    Finally, Hitler just took the guns from Jews. An armed citizenry is a dangerous one, after all. Hitler even said this about guns in the hands of the people: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms.”

    Abortion
    The great sacrament of the left, abortion. You’ll be pleased to know that Hitler was pro-choice:
    Dr. Tessa Chelouche goes on to quote Hitler’s 1942 policy statement on the application of abortion to Slavic people, which is chillingly similar to modern Planned Parenthood propaganda:
    “In view of the large families of the Slav native population, it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible. We are not interested in seeing the non-German population multiply…We must use every means to instill in the population the idea that it is harmful to have several children, the expenses that they cause and the dangerous effect on woman’s health… It will be necessary to open special institutions for abortions and doctors must be able to help out there in case there is any question of this being a breach of their professional ethics.”
    Compare the Nazi’s application of abortion to how Planned Parenthood (a government-funded organization) operates. Also read up on Margaret Sanger, who echoed much of Hitler’s sentiment.

    Blaming the One Percent Jews

    Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat, blaming them for everything, including economic hardship, even though the Jewish population in Germany was less than one percent…
    Jews in Germany made up less than one percent of the German population. But held According to the census of June 1933, the Jewish population of Germany consisted of about 500,000 people. Jews represented less than one percent of the total German population of about 67 million people.
    Despite that, Hitler insisted on taking their money…
    Nearly 120 billion Reich marks – over £12 billion at the time – was plundered from German Jews by laws and looting.
    The official study commissioned by the ministry examined the years from 1933 to 1945. Hans-Peter Ullmann, a Cologne history professor, said the tax authorities under the Nazis actively worked to “destroy Jews financially” and to loot wealth in the nations the Germans occupied.

    Even Jews who managed to escape from Germany before the Holocaust had to leave part of their wealth behind in the form of an “exit tax”. Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934 onwards.
    And boycotting their businesses…
    APRIL 1, 1933 NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT OF JEWISH-OWNED BUSINESSES
    At 10:00 a.m., members of the Storm Troopers (SA) and SS (the elite guard of the Nazi state) stand in front of Jewish-owned businesses throughout Germany to inform the public that the proprietors of these establishments are Jewish. The word “Jude,” German for “Jew,” is often smeared on store display windows, with a Star of David painted in yellow and black across the doors. Anti-Jewish signs accompany these slogans. In some towns, the SA march through the streets singing anti-Jewish slogans and party songs.

    Review: Hitler demeaned the Jews. He blamed the economic and national depression on them. He instituted national boycotts of their business. He then took their money through taxes and outright looting. Hey, maybe they weren’t paying their “fair share.”
    The Police State
    If you dared oppose the Nazis or Hitler politically, especially with your words, you better watch out. The Gestapo was on the hunt for political dissidents, many of whom would simply vanish.
    SS chief Heinrich Himmler also turned the regular (nonparty) police forces into an instrument of terror. He helped forge the powerful Secret State Police (Geheime Staatspolizei), or Gestapo; these non-uniformed police used ruthless and cruel methods throughout Germany to identify and arrest political opponents and others who refused to obey laws and policies of the Nazi regime.
    Compare the Gestapo with how leftists want to jail people who do not believe in man-made climate change. Compare the Gestapo to the Gaystapo, who fines people who do not agree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle. Compare the Gestapo to liberal New York, which fines you for not using the right gender pronouns.
    In Conclusion
    Hitler was a horrible human being. But aside from how he treated the Jews, aside from his monsterous ways, his polcies were anything but “conservative.” He wanted big government, he wanted big eductation, he wanted thought control. He hated political dissidents. He loathed free-speech. He feared an armed citizenry.
    So stop saying “Hitler was right-wing.” No, he wasn’t. If anything, he was a full-fledged left-winger. With a horrible mustache.

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    Re: Russia Collusion Found

    Hitler stopped being a socialist when dems became that way. Thanks Bernie.

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    Re: Russia Collusion Found

    NAZI = National Socialist Party

    but our resident libtard says Hitler hated socialism.

    He hated the Russian Bolsheviks....pinko commies. But mostly, he despised the Russians not so much for their political/economic views but for their historic meddling in the Balkans and how that impacted the Austrian-Hungarian claims, and the Russians interference in the Baltic States including Poland in territory with Prussian ties, and thus German ties. There is very little difference between Stalin and Hitler. Technically they were both Facists (single person in charge of a one-party system), and both embraced socialism/communism.

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    Re: Russia Collusion Found

    You guys have a history of being fooled by party labels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    You guys have a history of being fooled by party labels.
    Yep. I used to believe the democrat party was in favor of democracies. I figured it all out now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Yep. I used to believe the democrat party was in favor of democracies. I figured it all out now.
    I also used to think the democrat party believed in free speech, pro-middle class, Pro-America, pro-protect America first, pro-hard work and work ethics, pro-family,
    pro-women, pro-life and liberty, Pro-capitalism, pro-military and pro-black families. They are absolutely non of these.

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    That is because you guys put too much stock in party labels.

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    Re: Russia Collusion Found

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Yep. I used to believe the democrat party was in favor of democracies. I figured it all out now.
    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I also used to think the democrat party believed in free speech, pro-middle class, Pro-America, pro-protect America first, pro-hard work and work ethics, pro-family,
    pro-women, pro-life and liberty, Pro-capitalism, pro-military and pro-black families. They are absolutely non of these.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    That is because you guys put too much stock in party labels.
    No. Your liberal and socialist party platform and it's actions match what we just posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    No. Your liberal and socialist party platform and it's actions match what we just posted.
    I am an independent.

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    Nazis were nationalists above all else. Democrats are not, Trump is.

    Nazis believe in genetic superiority. Democrats do not beliece that, Trump does.

    Hitler and other Nazis ran on a platform and gained power by promising voters to alleviate a German economy mired in depression while also restoring “German cultural values, reverse the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles, turn back the perceived threat of a Communist uprising, put the German people back to work, and restore Germany to its 'rightful position' as a world power," according to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

    Change a few names in that and you have Trump’s platform below:

    Trump gained power by promising voters to alleviate a [US] economy mired in depression while also restoring “[American] cultural values, reverse the provisions of the [bad Trade Deals], turn back the perceived threat of a [immigrants] uprising, put the [American] people back to work, and restore [America] to its 'rightful position' as a world power, [aka, #MAGA]".

    Trump may have run as an (R), but his beliefs and political strategy is modeled more on the Nazi party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Nazis were nationalists above all else. Democrats are not, Trump is.

    Nazis believe in genetic superiority. Democrats do not beliece that, Trump does.

    Hitler and other Nazis ran on a platform and gained power by promising voters to alleviate a German economy mired in depression while also restoring “German cultural values, reverse the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles, turn back the perceived threat of a Communist uprising, put the German people back to work, and restore Germany to its 'rightful position' as a world power," according to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

    Change a few names in that and you have Trump’s platform below:

    Trump gained power by promising voters to alleviate a [US] economy mired in depression while also restoring “[American] cultural values, reverse the provisions of the [bad Trade Deals], turn back the perceived threat of a [immigrants] uprising, put the [American] people back to work, and restore [America] to its 'rightful position' as a world power, [aka, #MAGA]".

    Trump may have run as an (R), but his beliefs and political strategy is modeled more on the Nazi party.
    Almost funny....except you actually believe this tripe. Your hate for one man has caused you to delude yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Almost funny....except you actually believe this tripe. Your hate for one man has caused you to delude yourself.
    Which part is inaccurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Almost funny....except you actually believe this tripe. Your hate for one man has caused you to delude yourself.
    I have not heard even ONE word, or seen anything connecting Trump to "genetic superiority" but goosey thinks if he just posts it here, well, it becomes true.

    The ironic thing it is goosey and his ilk who believe in "genetic superiority" and more importantly "genetic inferiority" re: blacks. Look at his moronic defense of "systemic racism." He believes unless intellectually superior people like him, i.e. white libtards, rescue blacks they are doomed! NO WAY can/will black Americans be able to do for themselves. Nope! Poor ole blacks are just too stupid and need white libtards, like goosey, to make things right for them.

    This began in earnest under that racist LBJ when the libtards saw an opportunity to entrench a voting block who would vote 95% democrap election after election. Since then, said libtards, and their puppet willing accomplices in the media, in education, and elsewhere have worked diligently to convince everyone, including blacks, they are helpless.

    This is an aside, but I am reminded of that time....about 20 years ago or so...when the NCAA announced tougher academic standards for athletes to remain eligible. The new standard was really simple and went something like: Academic eligibility is set at a 2.0 overall GPA....etc...with some details added. That's all it said. It didn't mention any demographic group(s), it did not mention any particular sport, nothing but a generic new standard.

    Well....the outrage! Led by black coaches John Cheney (Temple) and John Thompson (Georgetown) and joined by a gaggle of libtards across the board, they raised a fuss. Cheney said: this is just an attempt to get more white boys on college basketball teams.

    Wow! so, Cheney thought (still thinks) that: 1) white "boys" can't make a basketball team on their own skills and merit (that's racist), and 2) the higher academic standards would only impact black players (and that is really racist!) Cheney was saying blacks are too stupid to make the grades, whites would make the grades, and thus only (or mostly) whites would be eligible to play.

    Not surprisingly Cheney was roundly cheered for making this stand. Libtards joined in the chorus echoing Cheney's viewpoint. That tells you all you need to know about libtards.

    Oh, and sorry, this post should probably be on the thread about systemic racism.

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